Quantum state of system after measurement

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The discussion revolves around the quantum mechanics of measurement, specifically focusing on the state of a system after measuring an observable represented by operator $$\hat{A}$$ and the subsequent measurement of another observable represented by operator $$\hat{B}$$. The original poster presents a scenario involving normalized eigenstates and their relationships, seeking to understand the implications of these measurements on the system's state and the probabilities of outcomes.

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  • The original poster attempts to determine the state of the system after measuring $$A$$ and questions how to calculate the probabilities of outcomes for the measurement of $$B$$. Some participants suggest expressing the eigenstates of $$A$$ in terms of those of $$B$$, while others question the necessity of this approach.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the measurement outcomes and the relationships between the eigenstates. There is a recognition of the need to express the wave function in terms of the eigenstates of $$B$$ to facilitate probability calculations, but no consensus has been reached on the best method to proceed.

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Participants note the importance of correctly applying the relationships between the eigenstates and the implications of measurement in quantum mechanics. There is an acknowledgment of syntax issues in the posts, which may affect clarity.

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> Operator $$\hat{A}$$ has two normalized eigenstates $$\psi_1,\psi_2$$ with
> eigenvalues $$\alpha_1,\alpha_2$$. Operator $$\hat{B}$$ has also two
> normalized eigenstates $$\phi_1,\phi_2$$ with eigenvalues
> $$\beta_1,\beta_2$$. Eigenstates satisfy:

> $$\psi_1=(\phi_1+2\phi_2)/\sqrt{5}$$
> $$\psi_2=(2\phi_1-\phi_2)/\sqrt{5}$$
>
> We measure the quantity $$A$$ and we get the value $$\alpha_1$$. What's
> the state of the system after the measurement?
>
> What are the possible outcomes after the measurement of the quantity
> $$B$$? What is the probability of getting each one of them?To begin with, I assume that, since the eigenfunction corresponding to the measured eigenvalue is $\psi_1$, this is also the state of the system after the measurement.

As for the possible outcomes of the measurement of $B$, I'm thinking of expressing $\psi_1,\psi_2$ as functions of $\phi_1,\phi_2$ and using them as eigenstates of $B$. Any help?
 
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andrewtz98 said:
To begin with, I assume that, since the eigenfunction corresponding to the measured eigenvalue is $\psi_1$, this is also the state of the system after the measurement.
Right.
andrewtz98 said:
As for the possible outcomes of the measurement of $B$, I'm thinking of expressing $\psi_1,\psi_2$ as functions of $\phi_1,\phi_2$ and using them as eigenstates of $B$.
Why that direction? While possible, I don't think it is necessary.

By the way: You can make inline LaTeX with double #.
 
Sorry about the wrong syntax. After reexamining it, I see that the only possible outcomes after the measurement of ##B## is either ##\beta_1## or ##\beta_2##, but how are the given expressions useful for the calculation of the probability of getting each state?
 
andrewtz98 said:
Sorry about the wrong syntax. After reexamining it, I see that the only possible outcomes after the measurement of ##B## is either ##\beta_1## or ##\beta_2##, but how are the given expressions useful for the calculation of the probability of getting each state?
andrewtz98 said:
Sorry about the wrong syntax. After reexamining it, I see that the only possible outcomes after the measurement of ##B## is either ##\beta_1## or ##\beta_2##, but how are the given expressions useful for the calculation of the probability of getting each state?
You know the wave function after the measurement of A, you just need to express it in terms of the eigenstates of B.
 

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