Query about how the domain of a binomial coefficient was calculated

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The discussion centers on the domain of the binomial coefficient C(n, r) and the conditions for defining it. The key conditions established are: n must be greater than 0, r must satisfy 0 ≤ r ≤ n, and both n and r must be integers. The user expresses confusion regarding the integer-only values for x in the context of the function C(16-x, 2x-1) and questions the validity of using non-integer values for x. The consensus is that only integer values of x will yield valid integer outputs for both components of the binomial coefficient.

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Homework Statement
Not a homework question per-se, but this is the question which lead to the confusion

Find the domain of the function:
i) C(16-x , 2x-1) 😃
(Sorry I did not know how to write the superscript before C aha!, just saw a standard notation and apparently we can write it like how I wrote above!)
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So it has been a while since I have been in school, but I just picked up one of these elementary calculus books to brush up my basics and I came across this question:

The solution the author provided for C(n,r) to be defined was
i)n>0
ii) r should be 0<=r<=n
iii) n & r should be integers.

He writes x<16 & x>=0.5 & x<=17/3
I agree
Then he writes x€ [0.5,17/3]
I agree though not the whole interval obviously
Then he directly writes x={1,2,3,4,5}
I am unable to understand why he writes only integer values for x, the definition said the superscript and subscript should be integers, not x ?

Also if I need to find all the values of x where the n and r in my question becomes an integer how am I supposed to do that? Do I input all of these values that lie in x's interval into the n and r expression to see if it is an integer? Wouldn't it be very ugly and not so smart?

Smart people please let me know🤓

PS: This is my first post so I am not very sure with the guidelines and where to post what. I saw math I clicked math. Please let me know if I did something wrong.


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Snowman2 said:
Homework Statement: Not a homework question per-se, but this is the question which lead to the confusion

Find the domain of the function:
i) C(16-x , 2x-1) 😃
(Sorry I did not know how to write the superscript before C aha!, just saw a standard notation and apparently we can write it like how I wrote above!)
Relevant Equations: 🤔

So it has been a while since I have been in school, but I just picked up one of these elementary calculus books to brush up my basics and I came across this question:

The solution the author provided for C(n,r) to be defined was
i)n>0
ii) r should be 0<=r<=n
iii) n & r should be integers.

He writes x<16 & x>=0.5 & x<=17/3
I agree
Then he writes x€ [0.5,17/3]
I agree though not the whole interval obviously
Then he directly writes x={1,2,3,4,5}
I am unable to understand why he writes only integer values for x, the definition said the superscript and subscript should be integers, not x ?

Also if I need to find all the values of x where the n and r in my question becomes an integer how am I supposed to do that? Do I input all of these values that lie in x's interval into the n and r expression to see if it is an integer? Wouldn't it be very ugly and not so smart?

Smart people please let me know🤓

PS: This is my first post so I am not very sure with the guidelines and where to post what. I saw math I clicked math. Please let me know if I did something wrong.
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Hello @Snowman2 .
:welcome:

Isn't it true that ##16-x## must be an integer ?
 
SammyS said:
Hello @Snowman2 .
:welcome:

Isn't it true that ##16-x## must be an integer ?
Hello @SammyS 🤗

Yes but for 2x-1 how can I be sure that the integer values of x are going to be the only values which give me 2x-1 as an integer?

For eg I could have something like x=1/2 which gives 2x-1 as an integer and x here is a real number? I understand that if we intersect this with the set of values of x which give us 16-x as an integer, we would not get 1/2, infact we would only get integers as stated.

But the author goes on to generalise this by saying this is a valid approach which would work for all sums concerning a binomial coefficient's domain. Perhaps I should have mentioned that in the post😃

Anyways let the sun rise i will also post a snapshot of that claim from my book.
Till then
Cheers!
 

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