Is a Function Funny When Its Secant is Less Than a Certain Number?

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The discussion centers on the definition of a "funny" function, which is defined as a function f satisfying the condition |f(x) - f(y)| ≤ c |x - y| for all x, y in the interval [a, b], where c > 0. The participants clarify that this property is synonymous with Lipschitz continuity. It is established that only constant functions are "funny" for all c, while the definition implies that a function can be "funny" for some specific c. The confusion arises regarding the interpretation of c as arbitrary versus fixed, and its implications on the function's behavior.

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The definition
Let a, b be any two real numbers
Let c > 0
We define a function f to be funny iff
For all x, y belonging to [a,b], |f (x) - f (y)| ≤ c |x - y|

Question
Let a < b (arbitrarily)
Let c > 0
Assume function g is funny on [a, b]
Let x, y ∈ [a, b]
Therefore, |g (x) - g (y)| ≤ c |x - y|
= > |g (x) - g (y)| / |x-y| ≤ c

I'm confused at this part because c is arbitrary. Does the original definition mean that a function is funny for all c > 0 or for some c > 0? And if it is for some c > 0, what is the statement saying about the function? Is it just stating that the secant of the function is less than equal to some positive number? Can there be a function that is not funny if this is the case?
 
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spacey__ said:
The definition
Let a, b be any two real numbers
Let c > 0
We define a function f to be funny iff
For all x, y belonging to [a,b], |f (x) - f (y)| ≤ c |x - y|

Question
Let a < b (arbitrarily)
Let c > 0
Assume function g is funny on [a, b]
Let x, y ∈ [a, b]
Therefore, |g (x) - g (y)| ≤ c |x - y|
= > |g (x) - g (y)| / |x-y| ≤ c

I'm confused at this part because c is arbitrary. Does the original definition mean that a function is funny for all c > 0 or for some c > 0? And if it is for some c > 0, what is the statement saying about the function? Is it just stating that the secant of the function is less than equal to some positive number? Can there be a function that is not funny if this is the case?

For a fixed c. This property is also called Lipschitz-continuity.

Only constant functions are funny for all c (exercise).
 
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spacey__ said:
The definition
Let a, b be any two real numbers
Let c > 0
We define a function f to be funny iff
For all x, y belonging to [a,b], |f (x) - f (y)| ≤ c |x - y|
As I interpret the above definition, "funny" is a boolean-valued function with four parameters: a, b, c and f.
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Question
Let a < b (arbitrarily)
Let c > 0
Assume function g is funny on [a, b]
The usage here suggests that "funny" is to be viewed as family of functions. A member of the family is selected based on a fixed level of funniness (c) and a fixed interval over which it is applied ([a,b]). Then that family member decides which functions are funny (at level c on interval [a,b]) and which are not.
 
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The fact that the problem uses the word "funny" would make me leery or the whole thing! Yes, that definition should say "there exist c such that ---".
 
HallsofIvy said:
The fact that the problem uses the word "funny" would make me leery or the whole thing! Yes, that definition should say "there exist c such that ---".

Although I think this is purposeful since the actual question wanted to prove integrability of f. Changing the quantifier to a for all in the Lipschitz definition I guess is just another way to say that a function is constant.

Nevermind, this is correct but the question I had before is not saying that.
 
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