Question about accelerating movement

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The discussion revolves around a uniformly accelerating movement problem involving two cars that start from rest at the same point but with a time delay. The original poster presents calculations for the accelerations of both cars and attempts to determine if the second car reaches the first by a specified time.

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  • The original poster calculates the accelerations of both cars and describes their motion using equations of motion. They express uncertainty regarding whether car (2) reaches car (1) by the end of the time interval and seek validation of their reasoning.

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Participants are engaged in clarifying the problem setup and discussing the graphical representation of the cars' velocities over time. Some participants are questioning the clarity of the graph description and the implications of the time delay in the motion of the cars.

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A uniformly accelerating movement problem that we found in our book and we wanted to solve, but we are not sure if our solution is right:

Homework Statement



Two cars, (1) and (2), initially at rest, start to move from the same point, in the same road. Car (2), however, starts to move 3.0 seconds after car (1). The picture below (attached in .BMP format) represents, in Cartesian graph, how their scalar velocities vary in function of time during 18 seconds, counting from car (1).
a) Calculate the scalar accelerations of cars (1) and (2) after their movements started.
b) Verify if, until the instant t = 18 s, car (2) managed to reach car (1). Justify your answer.

Homework Equations



[tex]S = S_0 + v_0t + \frac{a}{2}t^2[/tex]
[tex]a = \frac{\Delta v}{\Delta t}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



The first question asks to find the accelerations.
The accelerations, [tex]a_1[/tex] and [tex]a_2[/tex], are (calculating until instant t = 12, where both cars have velocity v = 18 m/s):
Car (1): [tex]a_1 = \frac{\Delta v}{\Delta t} = \frac{18}{12} = \frac{3}{2} m/s^2[/tex]
Car (2): [tex]a_2 = \frac{\Delta v}{\Delta t} = \frac{18}{12 - 3} = \frac{18}{9} = 2 m/s^2[/tex],
noting that, since car (2) begins from [tex]t[/tex] = 3 seconds, it only moved during 12 - 3 = 9 seconds.
We are sure this first part is right.
Now, the second question is the one that generates a little doubt, since car (2) starts from the same point as car (1), but only 3 seconds after.
Here is our attempt:
First, we have to discover the space equation ([tex]S_1[/tex] and [tex]S_2[/tex]) for both cars.
Car (1) is easy -> [tex]S_1 = \frac{a}{2}t^2[/tex], since it starts from rest and considering it starts from the position 0 meters. thus: [tex]S_1 = \frac{\frac{3}{2}}{2}t^2 = \frac{3}{4}t^2[/tex].
Now, car (2), considering it started from time t = 0: [tex]S_2 = \frac{2}{2}t^2 = t^2[/tex]. Since it started moving from the same point as car (1), its initial position is also 0.
To discover whether car (2) reached car (1) until t = 18 s, we have to know how much they moved until this instant. For car (1):
[tex]S_1 = \frac{3}{4}t^2 = \frac{3}{4}18^2 = \frac{3}{4}324 = 243 m[/tex].
For car (2), since it started at instant t = 3, we had to consider it only moved during 18 - 3 = 15 seconds. thus:
[tex]S_2 = t^2 = 15^2 = 225 m[/tex].
But the problem with the equation for car (2)'s movement is that it has to consider this car started its movement from time [tex]t[/tex] = 0.
Therefore, the answer would be: no, car (2) didn't reach car (1) yet, because [tex]S_2[/tex] = 225 is smaller than [tex]S_1[/tex] = 243.
Another conclusion that we drawed is that, if we wanted to discover the position where cars (1) and (2) meet, we should do [tex]S_1 = S_2[/tex]; but, since car (2) starts from a different time than car (1), we should do like this (in order to find time according to the referential presented in the graph, right?):
[tex]\frac{3}{4}t^2 = (t - 3)^2[/tex].
Does all this sound right?
Thank you in advance.
 

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Hmm... your attachment is still pending approval. Could you meanwhile describe your graph? (as a piecewise function, etc.)
 
We will try to describe:
It is a velocity x time graph (with velocity as the y-axis and time as the x-axis).
There are two functions described in the graph. They are straight lines, and encounter at a point, (t = 12; v = 18):
Car (1) is a straight line from point (t = 0; v = 0) to point (t = 12; v = 18), and further prolonged until instant t = 18 (without specifying velocity at this instant).
Car (2) is a straight line from point (t = 3; v = 0) to point (t = 12; v = 18), further prolonged until instant t = 18.
Thus, the two straight lines start with 3 seconds of difference and cross at instant t = 12 (with corresponding velocity v = 18), and continue moving away from each other until instant t = 18.
We are afraid that this description is confuse.
Thank you in advance.
 
pc2-brazil said:
Does all this sound right?
Sounds good to me.
 

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