Question about calculating moment of inertia.

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of moment of inertia, specifically the confusion regarding the use of different formulas such as 1/2 mr² and mr² for various shapes, including solid cones and spheres.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the reasoning behind using different formulas for moment of inertia based on the shape and mass distribution of objects. Questions arise about the conditions under which each formula applies, particularly regarding solid versus hollow objects.

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The discussion is active with participants providing insights into the differences in calculations for solid and hollow shapes. Some guidance has been offered regarding the integration process involved in deriving the formulas, but no consensus has been reached on the specific conditions for using each formula.

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There is mention of varying mass concentrations and the implications of integrating shapes into smaller components for calculations. Participants also reference external resources for further exploration of the topic.

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Homework Statement


I was learning how to calculate moment of inertia on Youtube, and I'm confused about when to use 1/2 mr2 instead of mr2.


This video says that he used 1/2 mr2 instead of mr2 because the cone is solid

But in this video, while he was calculating a solid sphere,

he used mr2.

Can someone explain to me why and when should I use mr2 please?

Homework Equations


I=mr2
I=mr2

The Attempt at a Solution


Maybe it's because he was trying to calculate the solid sphere by separate it into four pieces and add them together after it? But it's still solid doesn't it?
 
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Zheng_ said:
Maybe it's because he was trying to calculate the solid sphere by separate it into four pieces and add them together after it? But it's still solid doesn't it?

The calculations for moment of inertia are different for different mass concentrations. You might see different equations depending on the type of shape and other contributing factors. Look at this link: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/mi.html

Look at the common moments of inertia section.
 
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For the cone, the calculation is being done by leveraging earlier results. The cone is being divided it into circular slices. Because the cone is solid, each slice is a disk, which is why the factor of 1/2 is there. If the cone were hollow, each slice would be a ring, so you wouldn't have a factor of 1/2.
 
Zheng_ said:
in this video, while he was calculating a solid sphere,
The video you linked is for a flat disc, not a solid sphere.
The mr2 formula is for a point mass, or for a collection of point masses all at the same radius in the rotation (such as a ring). All other formulae are obtained from this by suitable integration. In the case of ½mr2 for a disc, that integration has been done and produced the factor ½. I am guessing that where you see the mr2 in the solid sphere calculation the integration has not been done yet (and it will produce a different factor).
 

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