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The discussion revolves around predicting the mechanical effects of emergency shut-down scenarios on pipeline networks, specifically focusing on the tools and methods used for such predictions. The context includes considerations of different types of liquids, particularly crude oil, and the associated physical properties that may influence the outcomes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the tools used to predict mechanical effects, such as hammering, during emergency shut-down scenarios.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of the type of liquid involved, noting that the density (gas or liquid) significantly affects the predictions.
  • A later response clarifies that the liquid in question is crude oil, which may have specific implications for the mechanical effects being discussed.
  • One participant shares a resource, a webinar that covers relevant topics, suggesting it could provide additional insights into the discussion.

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Participants express varying viewpoints regarding the factors influencing the predictions, particularly the type of liquid and its properties. There is no consensus on specific tools or methods, and the discussion remains open-ended.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully explored the assumptions underlying their predictions, nor have they resolved the implications of different liquid densities on mechanical effects.

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How are you predicting the effects of emergency shut-down scenarios on your pipeline networks?

I'm seeking some input on the tools you use to predict mechanical effects (hammering, etc.) from critical scenarios such as emergency shut-down.
 
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What kind of liquid? Density (gas or liquid) makes a huge difference.
 
Astronuc said:
What kind of liquid? Density (gas or liquid) makes a huge difference.

Thanks for your response!
The liquid would be crude oil...
 
SysEng said:
How are you predicting the effects of emergency shut-down scenarios on your pipeline networks? I'm seeking some input on the tools you use to predict mechanical effects (hammering, etc.) from critical scenarios such as emergency shut-down.

After doing a little research, I actually came across a webinar that will apparently cover these topics - looks like it's part 3 of a larger series. Here's the address, as it looks like it's open to the public:

http://www.flowmaster.com/webinars/...il&utm_campaign=FMUSA_P&P _Part3_Webinar_Q310
 

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