1. Dec 11, 2012

### cragar

Is it possible to define operators to find the expectation value of position for a Gaussian wave packet. Similar to finding raising and lowering operators for the harmonic oscillator in terms of position and momentum and then using those to find <x> and <p>. But I was just wondering if this could be done for a Gaussian wave packet.

2. Dec 11, 2012

### Staff: Mentor

Here is one: X

If your wave packet is expressed as function of position, $<X> = \int \psi \psi^* x dx$.

3. Dec 12, 2012

### cragar

I don't completely understand what you are doing? Is X my new operator.
are you starting with the definition of expectation value and then going from there.

4. Dec 12, 2012

### Staff: Mentor

The position operator (in the position representation) is simply $x$. So the general definition of expectation value:

$$\langle A \rangle = \int {\Psi^* A_{op} \Psi dx}$$

becomes

$$\langle x \rangle = \int {\Psi^* x \Psi dx}$$

Plug in your wave function and grind out the integral.

5. Dec 13, 2012

### cragar

ok i understand that. I was trying to think of a way to compute that with out doing an integral. Like how you can do that for the harmonic oscillator with a+ and a -
like $<x>=<U|a^+ + a^-|U>$
u is the wave function and a+ is the raising operator.
can I do this for a Gaussian wave packet.

6. Dec 14, 2012

### Staff: Mentor

If you define appropriate operators.
For a gaussian wave packet, the expectation value of the position is the central value of the distribution. If you know that, you are done.