Question about isolated points.

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In summary, the conversation is discussing whether a set containing only the value of pi on the real line is closed. The individual asking the question believes it to be closed because it contains its limit point. Another person agrees but raises doubts about the definition of a limit point. The conversation continues with a suggestion to assume the set is not closed and a contradiction is found, further supporting the idea that the set is indeed closed.
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Homework Statement


If I just had the set containing [itex] \pi [/itex] on the real line.
So this is an isolated point. Is this set closed?

The Attempt at a Solution


I think this set is closed because it contains its limit points, because it only has one point.
Am i thinking about this correctly?
 
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Hmm, that's an interesting question. I guess it would be closed because that's the only point in the set, and there's no option for an e-neighbourhood around it.
 
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I think you are thinking about it correctly but that you are even asking this question makes me wonder. Can you explain your doubts further? What's the exact definition of a limit point?
 
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thats what I thought too
 
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If we wanted to put things on more definite footing, we could assume that it isn't closed. Then there is some point x1 such that for all E > 0 there is some x in our set such that d(x,x1) < E. However, since x = π in all cases, then the only such point is π, a contradiction.
 

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2. How do isolated points differ from other points?

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3. What is the significance of isolated points in mathematics?

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