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The discussion revolves around the limit of a series as n approaches infinity, specifically the series 1/n^2 + 1/(n+1)^2 + ... + 1/(2n)^2. Participants are exploring whether the limit of this series converges to 0 and the implications of terms approaching 0.

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the series and the behavior of its terms as n increases. Some question the validity of concluding that the entire sum approaches 0 based solely on individual terms converging to 0. Others suggest comparing the series to known convergent or divergent series and exploring the implications of the number of terms in relation to their values.

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The conversation is active, with various perspectives on the convergence of the series being explored. Some participants have suggested using comparison tests and the Squeeze theorem, while others are questioning assumptions about the behavior of the series as n increases.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the nature of indeterminate forms and the relationship between the number of terms and their individual limits. Participants are also considering the implications of different series comparisons and the need for careful analysis of the series' behavior.

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This isn't a homework question, it's a question I encountered during self-study.

It said prove that the limit as n approaches infinity of 1/n^2 + 1/(n+1)^2 +...+ 1/(2n)^2 = 0

Is it sufficient to say that each term converges to 0 as n approaches infinity, and so the entire sum must also approach infinity?
 
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No, because infinity*0 is an indeterminate form. You'll have to sum the series and take the limit properly (or perhaps find something more creative).
 
I think you can compare all terms in the series to a P series 1/n^2, which diverges.

Each successive term in the series, an < an+1 < an+2, etc... is declining and all are <= the first term.

So that argument should be OK, without knowing anything else about the series.

Jeff
 
I understand that infinity*0 is indeterminate, but if each term converges to 0, wouldn't the sum look like 0 + 0 + ... + 0? Making the entire thing 0?
 
While that appears to be true at first, it is not always true. Consider the function:

f(n) = 1/n + 1/(n+1) + 1/(n+2) + ... + 1/(2n)

The smallest term in this sum is 1/(2n). There are a total of n+1 terms. This means that the sum f(n) > (n+1)/(2n) = 1/2 + 1/(2n) > 1/2 for n >= 1. Thus, it doesn't matter what value of n we have, f(n) is always greater than 1/2.

Yet, in this example, each of the terms tends to 0 as n tends to infinity. What matters is how fast the terms go to 0 compared to how many terms there are.
 
JeffNYC said:
I think you can compare all terms in the series to a P series 1/n^2, which diverges.
You meant "converges" here, didn't you?

Each successive term in the series, an < an+1 < an+2, etc... is declining and all are <= the first term.

So that argument should be OK, without knowing anything else about the series.

Jeff
 
Ben's already implied this, but I though i'd weigh in on this: Try Squeezing it.
 
Tedjn said:
What matters is how fast the terms go to 0 compared to how many terms there are.


Could you please expand on this?
 
Alright. How about this.

0 < 1/n^2 + 1/(n+1)^2 + ... + 1/(2n)^2 < 1/n^2 + ... + 1/n^2 [There are n+1 terms]

1/n^2 + ... + 1/n^2 = (n+1)/n^2 = 1/n + 1/n + 1/n^2, which converges to 0. Thus the original sequence must also converge to 0.
 
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Yes, you nailed it.
 

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