Question about metallic ions and a molecule

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential relationship between metallic ions and molecular structures, particularly in the context of analyzing waveforms from Fast Radio Bursts. Participants explore the idea of using spectral analysis to correlate colors with specific elements and their frequencies, while also touching on the complexities of defining color and spectra.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant lists various metallic ions and questions whether they can form a specific molecule.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the triviality of the initial question and prompts for clarification.
  • A participant shares an idea about using spectral analysis to identify colors associated with certain frequencies, suggesting it may simplify understanding molecular structures.
  • Concerns are raised about the confusion between "color" and "wavelength," with a suggestion that spectra are more precise for comparison.
  • A participant references a resource that discusses the relationship between sound and color, indicating a search for understanding frequency in relation to molecules.
  • A link to a Wikipedia article on molecular vibration is shared, possibly in response to the inquiry about understanding frequencies related to specific molecules.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the initial question regarding metallic ions and their relation to molecular structures. There are differing views on the clarity of the concepts being discussed, particularly regarding the definitions of color and spectra.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions about the definitions of color and how they relate to molecular analysis. The discussion also reflects a mix of speculative ideas and established concepts without clear resolution.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring the intersections of chemistry, physics, and signal analysis, particularly in the context of spectral analysis and molecular structures.

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Cobalt(II)
Copper(II)
Copper(II) tetrachloro complex
Chromate
Vanadyl(V) (pervanadyl)
Dichromate

Can these metallic ions make up a certain molecule?
 
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Please elaborate, answer seems so obviously trivial (yes) that I wonder what the real question is.
 
Sure.. I will let you try to piece together What is so trivial here. And I am not inclined yet on anything related to molecular biology

Well. I've been looking into The waveforms of Fast Radio Bursts, which are open for public analysis
And with Some Spectral Analyzing Tools I could look at the files in detail.
And I recently Just watched this youtube of Carl Segan Explaining something Very Important



In This video they show how to decode radio into a Molecular structure. The Molecules should signify what Frequency-

But. I just had a Idea that. Perhaps You don't need to do this confusing Puzzle at all.
That with a Spectral Analyzer I can see the Color Spectrum of the waveforms
So I was able to easily pick out which colors are present in this particular file I am looking into.

So I don't know. Just a Idea.. Would just match the colors to those elements and this would be the list associated to that color.

So I figure just by looking at the colors the spectral analyzer would present. Perhaps this would be a Easier indication of understanding the originating Frequency.
It sounds like a Easier goto Method Rather than a Confusing Chart to put together.

sorry for sounding like a idiot. Hope this isn't a stupid question

Its true that Understanding molecules, get to understand Frequency?
 
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I am afraid you are confusing many things at once. First of all - "color" is not something that is well defined, you can have several "colors" that look the same to your eye, yet they are made of different combinations of wavelengths. Wavelength and spectra on the other hand are well defined, unique and they are actually easier to compare than "colors".

Also, please note PF is not a place for speculating new ideas.
 
I think I just found what I am looking for. I think this is helpful
https://www.flutopedia.com/sound_color.htm

Okay I won't post Ideas. But..

A question about Carl Segan at the End he said the Molecules can present a Certain Type of Frequency.. How would you be able to understand the frequency. Whats the process with that.. If you found that Specific Set of Molecules how would you find its frequency based off a given molecule
 
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