Question about Newton's laws, solving for distance given slope and speed.

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a car coasting up a 30-degree incline with an initial speed of 25 m/s, and the goal is to determine the distance traveled before coming to a stop. The discussion centers around the application of Newton's laws and kinematic equations in the context of forces acting on the car.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the necessity of mass in solving the problem and explore the forces acting on the car, particularly the component of gravitational force that affects its motion. There is mention of using kinetic energy and kinematic equations to find displacement.

Discussion Status

Some participants have suggested that mass is not required for the solution and have pointed out the role of gravitational force. Others have expressed confusion regarding the correct method to apply, particularly concerning the angle of inclination and the appropriate kinematic equations to use.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted lack of clarity regarding the use of the angle of inclination in calculations, and some participants express uncertainty about their understanding of the problem setup.

avaholic
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
1. A car coasts (engine off) up a 30 degree grade. If the speed of the car is 25 m/s at the bottom of the grade, what is the distance traveled before it comes to a rest?



2. mostly my class so far has dealt with equations calculating work and force by drawinf free body diagrams and using the trig functions.



3. I'm having a hard time solving this as I'm missing any sort of mass value, which would seem necessary. i though of using the equation for change in kinetic energy, but can't think of how to rearrange it in a helpful way. The solution in the back of the textbook is 64m, but i can't honestly think of a way to get there.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
To solve this problem mass is not necessary.
Which force is acting on the car while going up. Which component of this force retards the car? From that you can find the retardation.
You know the initial velocity, final velocity and retardation. Which kinematic equation to be used to find the displacement?
 
rl.bhat said:
To solve this problem mass is not necessary.
Which force is acting on the car while going up. Which component of this force retards the car? From that you can find the retardation.
You know the initial velocity, final velocity and retardation. Which kinematic equation to be used to find the displacement?

ok, now i feel like a dunce. gravity is acting on the vehicle, slowing it down at the g constant of 9.8 m/s.
i took 25 m/s and divided it by 9.8 m/s, giving me how long it took to stop, 2.55 seconds. i multiplied that by 25 m/s and got 63.77 m rounded up to 64m.

thanks
 
avaholic said:
ok, now i feel like a dunce. gravity is acting on the vehicle, slowing it down at the g constant of 9.8 m/s.
i took 25 m/s and divided it by 9.8 m/s, giving me how long it took to stop, 2.55 seconds. i multiplied that by 25 m/s and got 63.77 m rounded up to 64m.

thanks
The method is wrong. Some where you have to use the angle if inclination.
 
Last edited:
rl.bhat said:
The method is wrong. Some where you have to the angle if inclination.

gah... well I'm obviously lost
 
The component of g along the inclined plane is g*sinθ.
Using the formula
vf^2 = vi^2 - 2*gsinθ*x, find x.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
4K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
4K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
3K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
3K
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
7K