Question about spectral lines of stars?

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The discussion revolves around the origins of spectral lines observed in stars, particularly focusing on the roles of the photosphere, chromosphere, and corona. Participants explore how these layers interact with light and contribute to the spectral features seen in stellar observations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions which part of a star causes the observed spectral lines, suggesting that both the chromosphere and corona might contribute, but noting that these layers have higher temperatures than the photosphere, which complicates the formation of spectral lines.
  • Another participant explains that the continuous spectrum of starlight comes from deeper within the star, while the outer layers absorb certain wavelengths, creating dark lines in the spectrum.
  • A different participant argues that spectral lines can be produced even when light passes through hotter gas, emphasizing that low-density gas interacts with light at specific wavelengths, leading to absorption or emission lines.
  • This participant elaborates that the photosphere is not a uniform layer but rather a region where gas is visible and in equilibrium, contributing significantly to the absorption lines observed.
  • Additionally, they mention that emission lines can be observed from the solar corona, particularly during solar eclipses, and that both absorption and emission lines can arise from the same element under different conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conditions necessary for spectral line formation, particularly regarding the temperature of the gas involved. There is no consensus on the specific contributions of the photosphere, chromosphere, and corona to the observed spectral lines.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of the interactions between light and the various layers of a star, noting that factors such as temperature, density, and geometric effects play significant roles in the formation of spectral lines. The discussion reflects a range of assumptions and interpretations regarding these phenomena.

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I can't seem to find an answer to this quick question: which part of the star causes the observed spectral lines? As I understand, the photosphere is the deepest visible layer of the star, and then light passes through the chromosphere and the corona. I would think that both the chromosphere and corona would cause spectral lines, but at the same time I have read that both of these layers have a higher temperature than the photosphere, and spectral lines can only be formed if the light passes through a cooler gas... Would the photosphere be producing its own spectral lines too?

Thank you in advance :)
 
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You'll notice that the spectra of starlight comes as a continuous "rainbow" with lines missing ... the continuous rainbow comes from everywhere but specifically deep int he star. This light has to pass through the outer layers, which absorb some wavelengths, giving the dark lines.
 
21joanna12 said:
I would think that both the chromosphere and corona would cause spectral lines, but at the same time I have read that both of these layers have a higher temperature than the photosphere, and spectral lines can only be formed if the light passes through a cooler gas...
There is no requirement for the gas to be cooler, any time a continuum passes through low density gas, spectral lines will be superimposed on that continuum because the low density gas only interacts with the light at certain wavelengths. There are many ways of getting either absorption or emission lines, some involving temperature, some involving scattering, and some involving geometric effects, and the Sun involves a lot of these phenomena. But the most common one is the photospheric absorption line-- that's the one that involves light passing through cooler gas, because the temperature in the photosphere drops as you go out from the center.
Would the photosphere be producing its own spectral lines too?
Yes, those are mostly the lines you see. The "photosphere" is not really all one place, it's not an infinitely thin spherical shell. The photosphere is best defined as simply the gas that is visible to us and is undergoing an equilibrium between the rate it absorbs light from below, and the rate it emits light into deep space. The fact that light is diffusing through it causes its temperature to fall as you go out, and that is what causes those absorption lines, but there are also other kinds of lines in other parts of the solar spectrum-- like chromospheric and coronal lines.

Indeed, the element named for the Sun, helium, was first discovered by looking at emission from ionized helium in the solar corona during a solar eclipse. That light would be seen in emission simply because you are waiting for the Moon to block out the solar continuum, and you see the line from outside the disk of the Sun against no continuum background. Otherwise it would be swamped by the brightness of the Sun. I believe we can now also see absorption lines from neutral helium in the photosphere, and if so, that provides an example of both types of lines from the same element in the Sun in different situations.
 
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