Question about the solution to this elastic collision

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In elastic collisions, momentum is always conserved, while kinetic energy is only conserved in perfectly elastic collisions. The initial equation presented incorrectly attempts to use kinetic energy conservation, leading to an incorrect final velocity of 78.713 m/s instead of the correct 65.2 m/s. The discussion emphasizes that the equations for momentum and kinetic energy are not interchangeable because they apply under different conditions. For collision problems, it is advisable to default to momentum conservation unless specified that energy is conserved. Understanding these principles is crucial for solving collision-related physics problems accurately.
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Homework Statement
High-speed stroboscopic photographs show that the
head of a golf club of mass 200 g is traveling at 55.0 m/s
just before it strikes a 46.0-g golf ball at rest on a tee. After the collision, the club head travels (in the same direction) at 40.0 m/s. Find the speed of the golf ball just
after impact
Relevant Equations
1/2m1v1i^2+1/2m2v2i^2=1/2m1v1f^2+1/2m2v2f^2
m1v1i+mvv2i=m1v1f+m2v2f
I found that 1/2m1v1i^2+1/2m2v2i^2=1/2m1v1f^2+1/2m2v2f^2
=>0.5*200*55^2+0.5*46*0^2=0.5*40^2*200+0.5*46*0*vf^2=>vf=78.713 m/s.

The true answer is 65.2 m/s and is solved using m1v1i+mvv2i=m1v1f+m2v2f. Are these equations not interchangeable? Why can I not use the equation I used?
 
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The equations are not interchangeable. If they were, they would give the same answer. All collisions conserve momentum but not necessarily energy.
 
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kuruman said:
The equations are not interchangeable. If they were, they would give the same answer. All collisions conserve momentum but not necessarily energy.
I see. So the kinetic energy one works if energy is conserved? And should I always default to momentum?
 
as2528 said:
I see. So the kinetic energy one works if energy is conserved? And should I always default to momentum?
Yes, in a collision you default to momentum conservation. If you are told that the collision is perfectly elastic, then you can use energy conservation as well. Using both, usually involves questions where there are two unknowns.
 
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kuruman said:
Yes, in a collision you default to momentum conservation. If you are told that the collision is perfectly elastic, then you can use energy conservation as well. Using both, usually involves questions where there are two unknowns.
Thank you! This really cleared it up for me.
 
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