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The discussion revolves around a probability problem involving defective electronic fuses produced by multiple production lines. Participants explore the calculations related to conditional probabilities, specifically focusing on the likelihood of a defective fuse originating from a particular production line given certain conditions and test results.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a calculation for the probability that a defective fuse came from line 1, using the formula for conditional probability.
  • Another participant questions the values used for P(A|B) and P(B-), suggesting that the denominator in the formula for P(B|A) should be P(A) instead of P(B).
  • A later reply offers an alternative perspective by calculating the total number of defective items produced by each line to illustrate the proportion of defects from line 1.

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Participants express differing views on the correct application of probability formulas and the interpretation of the values used in calculations. There is no consensus on the correct approach, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants may be operating under different interpretations of the probability formulas, leading to confusion regarding the relationships between events A and B. The calculations depend on the assumptions made about the distribution of defects across production lines.

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An electronic fuse is produced by five production lines in a manufacturing operation.
The fuses are costly, are quite reliable, and are shipped to suppliers in 100-unit lots.
Because testing is destructive, most buyers of the fuses test only a small number of
fuses before deciding to accept or reject lots of incoming fuses.
All five production lines produce fuses at the same rate and normally produce
only 2% defective fuses, which are dispersed randomly in the output. Unfortunately,
production line 1 suffered mechanical difficulty and produced 5% defectives during
the month of March. This situation became known to the manufacturer after the fuses
had been shipped.Acustomer received a lot produced in March and tested three fuses.
One failed. What is the probability that the lot was produced on line 1? What is the
probability that the lot came from one of the four other lines?

Let B denote the event that a fuse was drawn from line 1 and let A denote the event
that a fuse was defective. Then it follows directly that

P(B) = 0.2 and P(A|B) = 3(.05)(.95)^2 = .135375.

Similarly,
P(B-) = 0.8 and P(A|B-) = 3(.02)(.98)2 = .057624.



P(A) = P(A|B)P(B) + P(A|B-)P(B-)
= (.135375)(.2) + (.057624)(.8) = .0731742.


P(B|A) = P(B & A) / P(A) = P(A|B)*P(B) / P(A) = (.135375)(.2) / .0731742 = 0.37

Wat I don't understand here how did he get those values for
P(A|B) and P(B-)..? shouldn't P(B | A) = P(A & B) / P(B) = 0.05/0.2

P(B) = 1/5 = 0.2. same logic for P(A|B-) I don't understand this if someone could explain this more clearly.
 
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Genericcoder said:
shouldn't P(B | A) = P(A & B) / P(B) = 0.05/0.2

It should be P(A) in the denominator, not P(B) like you have written. You may be confused because the formula will typically be presented as giving P(A | B), so your A and B are flipped from what the standard formula in a textbook would read.
 
oh i see
 
Another way of looking at it: Imagine that every line produces 1000 items, for a total of 5000 items. Lines 2 through 4 have 2% bad: a total of .02(4000)= 80 bad items. Line one produces 5% bad, a total of 50 bad items. That is, out of a total of 80+ 50= 130 bad items, 50, or 50/130 or about 38% came from line 1.
 

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