Question for arildno about raising an ancient ship

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In summary, the conversation discusses two sunken ships that were raised, the Swedish Gustav Wasa and the German Blucher. The Gustav Wasa was raised many years ago and is now in a museum, while the Blucher remains at the bottom of the sea due to the risk of oil spillage. The conversation also mentions the reasons for the ships' sinking and the significance of the Blucher's sinking in delaying the German capture of Oslo. The Gustav Wasa is described as being extremely fragile, but still preserved in a museum.
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Some time ago i saw a prog about raising an ancient ship, it sank on its maiden voyage in your part of the world, do you know of this, was it raised?
 
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wolram said:
Some time ago i saw a prog about raising an ancient ship, it sank on its maiden voyage in your part of the world, do you know of this, was it raised?
It might be the ill-famed Swedish Gustav Wasa ship?
That was raised many years ago, and is in a museum.

The king demanded to have an extra deck of cannons on board, the engineers said "not possible, your majesty", but back then in the 17th century, kings had their will.

And thus it sailed out on his maiden voyage, unstable, and tipped over very soon.


Alternatively, you might be thinking of the German vessel "Blucher" which was sunk from the shore on the invasion day 9. april 1940 in the Oslofjord.
This event delayed the German capture of our capital for 8 hours, making it possible to get our ministers and royal family away from an otherwise certain capture.


We have discussed raising Blucher due to the oil seepage from the wreck.
But, we haven't dared, due to the danger that the hull might break and spill out all the oil at once.


Any of these ships you were thinking of?
 
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It sounds like the first one, they said it sank because a gust of wind keeled it over and the lower gun ports let the sea in, if it is in a museum in good preservation it must be akin to the Mary Rose or may be even better?
 
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It is EXTREMELY fragile, and is basically falling apart year by year.
I'm not sure if the museum is still open for the public.
 
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Here is a picture of it:
180px-Vasa_from_port1.jpg
 
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What a loss that must have been

http://hem.bredband.net/johava/WASAe.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_(ship )
 
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