Question of the basic properties of tan

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The discussion revolves around the properties of the tangent function in the context of solving for angles in a trigonometric problem related to an engineering homework assignment. The original poster presents equations involving tangent and sine functions and seeks clarification on the angle gamma, which appears to yield a negative value contrary to expectations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to solve for gamma and chi using trigonometric identities but questions the validity of their negative result for gamma. They express uncertainty about the properties of the tangent function and whether their drawing of the problem needs adjustment.
  • Some participants question the relationship between the angles derived, noting that the sum of 73.5 and -16.5 equals 90 degrees, which prompts further exploration of the implications of this relationship.
  • Another participant introduces the context of an ellipse equation and describes the geometric interpretation of the angles involved, suggesting a connection to the problem's setup.
  • One participant mentions the periodic nature of the tangent function, indicating that additional solutions may exist by adding 180 degrees to the arctan result.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the properties of the tangent function and the implications of angle measurements in the context of the problem. The original poster's reference to a textbook answer suggests a potential discrepancy that remains to be resolved.

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Homework Statement



I've solved a problem in my engineering homework to a point where I have the following data:
ψ = arctan(3) = 71.57 (degrees) , inverse tangent of 3
δ = 30 degrees
solve for gamma and chi (χ):

tan(2gamma) = tan(2ψ)cos(δ)
sin(2χ) = sin(2ψ)sin(δ)

Homework Equations



tan(2gamma) = tan(2ψ)cos(δ)
sin(2χ) = sin(2ψ)sin(δ)

The Attempt at a Solution



My problem rests with the gamma solution. When I draw it (using other data in the problem), it is an angle larger than 70 degrees at least. When I solve for gamma with a calculator I get gamma = -16.5°.

my process:
tan(2ψ) = -.75
(-.75)cos(30) = -0.6495
arctan(-0.6495) = -33°
gamma = -33/2 = -16.5°

I know that there are properties of tangent that you need to take into consideration, but I just cannot remember them, and I am sure that is why I get this negative angle.

Or, did I do this correctly, and I just need to redraw my problem?

EDIT: the answer in the back of the book is gamma = 73.5 degrees
 
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Without knowing the context of the problem, it's hard to say what's going on, but I don't think it's a coincidence that 73.5+16.5 = 90.
 
I, too, noticed that they summed to 90. Well, the entire problem, minus the EE info, is:

I have an equation that makes an elipse:

E = x[10cos(wt + 30°)] + y[30cos(wt)]

We can make wt our variable. x and y are the vector directions, I believe. (they have hats ^ above them)

gamma is the angle that the major axis of the elipse makes with the x-axis. When I draw the elipse, I can clearly see that said gamma is near positive 70°)

ψ is the angle that the amplitudes of the x and y components make with the x-axis (arctan(30/10) = 71.57)

and chi, χ, is an angle that is hard to describe, but not pertinent to what I need help with.
 
The tangent function has a period of 180°, so when you take the arctan, you can add 180° to what the calculator gives you to get another solution.
 

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