Question on a particular integral property

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The discussion revolves around a particular integral identity related to smooth functions, as presented in Wald's book on general relativity. Participants explore the validity of the identity and its implications, as well as its connection to the fundamental theorem of calculus and Taylor series expansion.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the validity of the integral identity and whether it holds true based on the fundamental theorem of calculus, expressing uncertainty about the deeper meaning behind it.
  • Another participant suggests that the reasoning provided is sufficient to establish the identity's truth, though the interpretation of Wald's intent remains unclear.
  • A third participant points out potential issues with notation, indicating that the formula is only true if the derivative is understood in a specific way, and provides a counterexample to illustrate this point.
  • One participant acknowledges the sloppy notation and clarifies their understanding of the derivative in the context of the identity, while also discussing the broader context of proving a Taylor series expansion by induction.
  • Another participant recommends applying the fundamental theorem of calculus to a specific function transformation as a way to proceed with the proof.

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Participants express differing views on the validity of the integral identity and the interpretation of notation. There is no consensus on the deeper implications of the identity or the correct approach to the induction proof.

Contextual Notes

Limitations in notation and assumptions regarding the interpretation of derivatives are noted, which may affect the validity of claims made about the integral identity.

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I've been reading Wald's book on general relativity and in one of the questions at the end of chapter 2 he gives a hint which says to make use the following integral identity (for a smooth function in): F(x)=F(a)+\int_{0}^{1}F'(t(x-a)+a)dt
Is this result true simply because \int_{0}^{1}F'(t(x-a)+a)dt=F(t(x-a)+a)\bigg\vert_{t=0}^{t=1}=F(x)-F(a)
And so F(x)=F(a)+\int_{0}^{1}F'(t(x-a)+a)dt=F(a)+\left(F(x)-F(a)\right)
Or is there a deeper explanation to it?
I get that one can arrive at this expression by starting from the fundamental theorem of calculus and making a change of variables, but I'm unsure of what he's trying to say with it?!
 
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Nothing deeper- that's basically why it is true. As to "what he's trying to say with it", I suspect that depends on what he is try to do.
 
I should mention sloppy notation here. The formula is true if ##F'(t(x-a) + a)## is understood as derivative of the function ##\phi##, ##\phi(t) = F(t(x-a) + a)## (evaluated at ##t##). However, in the standard notation ##F'(t(x-a) + a)## means the derivative of ##F## evaluated at the point ##t(x-a) + a## , and in this case the formula is false (consider say ##F(x) =x##, ##a=0##).
 
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Yes, I admit it is a bit sloppy, I was just copying over the notation that Wald gives it in. I'm assuming he meant F'(t(x-a) +a)=\frac{dF(t(x-a)+a)}{dt}?!

He gives it in a question in which he asks the reader to prove by induction that for any smooth function F : \mathbb{R} ^{n} \rightarrow \mathbb{R} ^{n} one can express it as the following power series (i. e. a Taylor series) F(x) =F(a) +\sum_{i=1}^{\infty}(x^{i}-a^{i})H_{i}(x), where x=(x^{1},\ldots,x^{n}) and a=(a^{1},\ldots,a^{n}), and in particular, \frac{\partial F} {\partial x^{i}} \bigg\vert_{x=a} =H_{i} (a). He gives a hint that for n=1, you should use the "known" identity I gave in my first post. I can do the first step in the induction process, by starting from the fundamental theorem of calculus and making a change of variables, but I'm not entirely sure what this is showing. I'm also unsure how to proceed after making the induction step?!
 
You just should apply the formula $$\phi(1) = \phi(0) +\int_0^1 \phi'(t) dt$$ (the fundamental theorem of calculus) to $$\phi(t) = F(a+(x-a)t). $$
 

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