Question on circular motion and Newton's laws

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The discussion revolves around circular motion and Newton's laws, specifically focusing on action/reaction forces in the context of a rubber stopper being twirled on a string. Participants explore the relationship between these forces and the principles of Newton's first and third laws.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants question the nature of action/reaction forces involved in circular motion, particularly the tension force and its counterpart. There is also a discussion about the validity of centrifugal force as a concept.

Discussion Status

Some participants are actively engaging with the concepts, attempting to identify the forces at play and clarify their understanding of Newton's laws. Guidance has been offered regarding the nature of force pairs, but there is no explicit consensus on the complete understanding of the forces involved.

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There is an indication that participants are working within the constraints of classroom teachings, particularly regarding the definition and existence of centrifugal force, as well as the expectations of understanding action/reaction pairs.

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1. What are the action/reaction forces when twirling a rubber stopper attached to a string? How does circular motion illustrate Newton's first law?



2. F=ma



3. I thought about centripetal and centrifugal, but my teacher said centrifugal force isn't a real force.
 
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Your teacher of course is correct. When you talk of 'action/reaction' forces, you're talking usually about Newton's 3rd Law 'force pairs', whereby if A exerts a force on B, then B exerts a force on A that is equal in magnitude but opposite in direction to it. Does that help?
 
yea, but i can only think of the tension force, i can't think of the opposite to that. how about the force applied by the hand and the tension force?
 
excel000 said:
yea, but i can only think of the tension force, i can't think of the opposite to that. how about the force applied by the hand and the tension force?
Yes, that's one of them. If the hand pulls on the string creating a force in the string, then what can you say about the force of the string on the hand? What about the stopper/string force pair?
 

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