Question Regarding Harmonic Oscillator Eigenkets

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, and for a harmonic oscillator using its eigenstates |n>. The eigenstates |n> are confirmed as eigenkets of the Hamiltonian and number operator, allowing the use of ladder operators to express position and momentum. The formulas for the ladder operators are provided: \(\hat{a}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(\hat{x}+i\hat{p})\) and \(\hat{a}^{\dagger}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(\hat{x}-i\hat{p})\). The expectation values can be computed without needing to define a wavefunction in the |n> basis, addressing concerns about infinite dimensionality.

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Hi everyone!

Given that a harmonic oscillator has eigenkstates |n> where n = 1,2,3,..., how can we calculate <X>, <P>, <X^2>, etc. Is there a need to define a wavefunction in the |n> basis?

Thanks!
 
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Essentially no, because |n>'s are eigenkets of the number operator/Hamiltonian and X and P, though unbounded & with purely continuous spectrum, can be expressed as linear combinations of the raising & lowering ladder operators whose action on the eigenket's space becomes known once you establish that |n>'s are eigenkets of H and N.
 
So that means just express the |n> kets as linear combinations of the ladder operators, and then use them as ψ in the formula <X> = <ψ|X|ψ>? But how would you deal with the infinite dimensionality? Will the answer be finite in that case?

Thank you by the way for the idea!
 
Consider that
<br /> \hat{a}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(\hat{x}+i\hat{p})<br />
and
<br /> \hat{a}^{\dagger}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(\hat{x}-i\hat{p})<br />
You can use these to write \hat{x} and \hat{p} in terms of \hat{a} and \hat{a}^{\dagger}. Then you know
<br /> \hat{a}|n\rangle = \sqrt{n}|n-1\rangle<br />
and
<br /> \hat{a}^{\dagger}|n\rangle=\sqrt{n+1}|n+1\rangle<br />
You have the tools to take the expectation value.
 
Thunder_Jet said:
So that means just express the |n> kets as linear combinations of the ladder operators, and then use them as ψ in the formula <X> = <ψ|X|ψ>? But how would you deal with the infinite dimensionality? Will the answer be finite in that case?

Thank you by the way for the idea!

You don't express the kets as ladder operators acting on the vacuum, you express x and p as ladder operators.
 

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