Vacuum energy and harmonic oscillator

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between vacuum energy and the zero point energy of a harmonic oscillator. Participants explore the theoretical underpinnings of this relationship, particularly in the context of quantum mechanics and electromagnetic fields.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the definition of "vacuum" in relation to vacuum energy.
  • Another participant explains that the Hamiltonian of a harmonic oscillator has a ground state energy that is greater than zero, contrasting it with the classical harmonic oscillator.
  • A link to a Wikipedia article on vacuum energy is provided for additional context.
  • A later reply suggests that vacuum energy is related to zero point energy because quantizing the electromagnetic field in a cavity results in a Hamiltonian that resembles that of a harmonic oscillator, leading to similar properties regarding ground state energy.
  • This reply also notes that the ground state of the quantized electromagnetic field is referred to as vacuum, emphasizing that the expectation value of the number operator is zero in this state.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definition of "vacuum" and its implications for vacuum energy and zero point energy. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise nature of these concepts.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the definitions and assumptions regarding "vacuum" and its relationship to the harmonic oscillator, which are not fully clarified in the discussion.

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Hi everyone
I was wondering, why is vacuum energy related to the zero point energy of an harmonic oscillator? The hamiltonian of an harmonic oscillator is $H= \frac{p^{2}}{2m} + \frac{1}{2} \omega x^{2}$. Where does the harmonic potential term come from in the vacuum?
 
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What do you mean by "vacuum".

The harmonic oscillator, described by the Hamiltonian,
$$\hat{H}=\frac{1}{2m} \hat{p}^2 + \frac{m \omega^2}{2} \hat{x}^2,$$
has a ground state with the energy eigenvalue ##E_0=\hbar \omega/2##, which is the lowest possible energy the oscillator can have. That energy value is ##>0##, while the lowest possible energy value of the classical harmonic oscillator is 0.
 
astrolollo said:
why is vacuum energy related to the zero point energy of an harmonic oscillator?
Because upon quantizing electromagnetic field in a cavity, the Hamiltonian turns out to be identical to that of a Harmonic oscillator. The eigenstates and eigenvalues of EM field's Hamiltonian can then be inferred to have the same properties as those corresponding to harmonic oscillator, where as vanhees pointed out has non-zero ground state energy. The ground state of a quantized EM field is what we termed as vacuum, this naming refers to the fact that the expectation value of number operator is zero for ground state.
 
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