Question: What is the Effect of Mass on SHM Acceleration?

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The discussion revolves around the effect of mass on the acceleration and period of a mass-spring system in simple harmonic motion (SHM). The original poster questions how increasing the mass while keeping the maximum displacement constant affects the oscillation period.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between mass, force, and acceleration in the context of SHM. Questions are raised about the factors determining the period of oscillation and the implications of changing mass while maintaining displacement.

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Participants have engaged in a back-and-forth regarding the principles governing SHM, including Hooke's Law and the relationship between mass and period. Some guidance has been provided regarding the independence of period from displacement, while further questions about maintaining period with reduced displacement remain open.

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There is an ongoing examination of assumptions related to mass, force, and displacement in the context of SHM, with references to established laws and principles. The discussion reflects a mix of correct and speculative reasoning.

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Hi,

I have a question:

What happens when: We add increase the mass on a spring, displace it as much as we did with a lighter mass and allow it to oscillate. Would the period remain the same? In the end, the force was increased when displacing and the maximum displacement was kept constant.

Thanks
 
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Ask yourself: What determines the period of a mass on a spring?
 
Peter G. said:
In the end, the force was increased when displacing and the maximum displacement was kept constant.
This isn't correct. What law describes the force exerted by a spring?
 
Doc Al: The mass and the spring constant determine the period?
Vela: Hooke's Law describes the force exerted by a spring (product of the spring constant and extension until the elastic limit)

I was also thinking... (This is also probably wrong but you guys can maybe help me get over it) If the mass increases for the same force therefore the acceleration must decrease.

According to a = -w2x

The period must increase or the displacement decrease and the period remains constant. That is, the amplitude would be decreased so a full cycle would cover a smaller length...
 
Peter G. said:
Doc Al: The mass and the spring constant determine the period?
Right. Note that period does not depend on displacement.
Vela: Hooke's Law describes the force exerted by a spring (product of the spring constant and extension until the elastic limit)
Right. Note that force depends on spring constant and displacement, not on the mass.

I was also thinking... (This is also probably wrong but you guys can maybe help me get over it) If the mass increases for the same force therefore the acceleration must decrease.
Makes sense to me.

According to a = -w2x
That's good.

The period must increase or the displacement decrease and the period remains constant. That is, the amplitude would be decreased so a full cycle would cover a smaller length...
Since you gave the mass the same initial displacement, the amplitude is the same. But, since you changed the mass, the period changes. Since, as you point out, the acceleration is less at each point, it takes longer for the mass to go through its cycle: The period increases.
 
Doc Al said:
Since you gave the mass the same initial displacement, the amplitude is the same. But, since you changed the mass, the period changes. Since, as you point out, the acceleration is less at each point, it takes longer for the mass to go through its cycle: The period increases.

Ok, cool. Just one last thing. Using the same example if we reduce the initial displacement is it possible that we keep the period the same?
 
Peter G. said:
Just one last thing. Using the same example if we reduce the initial displacement is it possible that we keep the period the same?
You tell me. Does the period depend on the initial displacement?
 
Nop, it does not.
 

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