What is the correct formula for acceleration for SHM

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The discussion revolves around a horizontal mass-spring oscillator undergoing simple harmonic motion (SHM). The original poster presents a problem involving the calculation of maximum restoring force and maximum acceleration, given specific parameters such as mass, force constant, time period, and amplitude of oscillation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the use of different formulas for acceleration in SHM and question why the results differ. The original poster attempts to reconcile the equations a = -ω²x and a = -k(x/m) and raises concerns about the validity of the values used for angular frequency (ω).

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights regarding the discrepancy in calculated values for acceleration, while others have pointed out potential contradictions in the problem's parameters. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between angular frequency, period, and the implications of the given values.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the provided spring constant and mass suggest a much shorter natural period than the stated 6 seconds, leading to questions about the accuracy of the problem setup. There is also a mention of the absence of damping in the scenario.

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Homework Statement


If the mass of a horizontal mass-spring oscillator undergoing SHM is 0.5kg and the force constant is 20N/cm, what is the maximum restoring force of the oscillator? And what is the maximum acceleration? (Time period is 6s and amplitude of oscillation is 12cm)

Homework Equations


Acceleration (a) = -w^2(x) and a = -k(x/m)

The Attempt at a Solution


When I use the given information and plug in the values, the answer is different for each equation. For the first equation, I get an answer of 0.13ms^-2, and for the latter I get 480ms^-2.

I don't seem to understand why they don't match and which one is correct. because I know we had to equate ma=-kx to derive the equation omega(w) = sqr.rt(k/m).

Any replies would be tremendously helpful. Thanks.

PS - This is my first post. :)
 
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I'm not entirely sure I understand what's confusing you:
You calculated the acceleration using a=-ω2x and got a different answer than when you used a=-kx/m?

But like you said, ω=√(k/m) so how can the equations be any different?
 
Thanks for the reply... Actually Yes, I did get two different answers for the different formulae. I think the problem lies with the value to ω. When I use

ω=√(k/m),
with k = 20N/cm, and m = 0.5kg,
I get 6.32 rad s^-1 as the answer.

Plugging in this value of ω in

a=-ω^2x gives me 4.80 ms^-2

But when I use

ω = 2π/T, with T = 6s,
I get the value 1.05 rad s^-1.

Thus, a=-ω^2x now gives me 0.13 ms^-2

I can't figure out why I get two different values. Shouldn't they match? And also, which one is correct?

PS - I used F =-k.x to find the maximum restoring force. I got 240 N which seems to be correct. Its the acceleration bit that's throwing me off.
 
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The given spring constant and mass imply a natural period of about a tenth of a second. This is a far cry from the suggested 6 seconds. No mention of damping is made (and it would have to be large indeed), so the given values seem self-contradictory.
 
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Thanks so much... I was suspecting something must have been wrong with the question. BTW, when you say the information implies a natural period of a tenth of a second, how do you arrive at that conclusion? I don't think I know of any equations or relationships that helps me calculate that. Can you help? :)
 
dilton_8000 said:
Thanks so much... I was suspecting something must have been wrong with the question. BTW, when you say the information implies a natural period of a tenth of a second, how do you arrive at that conclusion? I don't think I know of any equations or relationships that helps me calculate that. Can you help? :)

Angular frequency ω is related to the period. You should know how ω relates to f, and how f relates to T.
 
Oh, ofcourse, silly me... :)... Thanks... I think I've figured it out... Cheers
 

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