Question: What is the Universe Expanding Into?

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The discussion centers on the concept of the universe's expansion and what it is expanding into, with participants questioning the nature of space and time. It is clarified that the universe is not expanding into anything, as it encompasses all that exists, and the increasing distance between galaxies is a result of this expansion. Some participants propose alternative theories, such as the idea of everything contracting instead, but these notions are largely dismissed as speculative and unsupported by evidence. The conversation also touches on the nature of singularities and the concept of absolute past and future, with debates on whether time behaves differently near these points. Ultimately, the complexities of cosmology and the limitations of human understanding are acknowledged throughout the discussion.
  • #31
bill alsept said:
You are right I was looking at it from an outsiders point of view and I realize ones on time frame would be normal. I just ment that a singularity as in a large mass could cause time changing characteristics.

What do you mean by time changing charecteristics? Are you just paraphrasing gravitational time dilation or do you have a different meaning?
 
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Cosmo Novice said:
What do you mean by time changing charecteristics? Are you just paraphrasing gravitational time dilation or do you have a different meaning?

As in post #9 above
 
  • #33
bill alsept said:
As in post #9 above

Phind's post is describing normal time dilation. It's less confusing if you just use that term instead of "time changing characteristics". :biggrin:
 
  • #34
Drakkith said:
Phind's post is describing normal time dilation. It's less confusing if you just use that term instead of "time changing characteristics". :biggrin:

Thats where I got the term from. I didn't come up with it. Thats why I was asking.
 
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bill alsept said:
Thats where I got the term from. I didn't come up with it. Thats why I was asking.

Hmm. I've never heard of it before. My mistake.
 
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As has already been pointed out previously in this thread by contributors...the physics describing our Universe does NOT allow, nor require another "hyper" dimension in which it expands. The curvature of our Universe is an intrinsic property, and does not require higher dimensions (again, as has already been noted).

The simplest and most succinct explanation, IMHO, comes courtesy of Proffessor Edward Harrison. "The Universe contains both Space and Time, and does NOT exist in Space and Time". In other words, our Universe contains everything that is physical, and nothing that is non-physical. Space and Time are physical constructs that exist within our Universe.

Also, in accordance to the Location Principle, as well as the Containment Principle and the Cosmological Principle, there is no boundry or "edge" to our Universe. The expansion of our Universe (change in Scale factor) is an intrinsic property, and is "self-contained" and self-consistent. Since our Universe contains all of "Space", there is no "external" space within which the Universe expands into. Instead, our Universe consists of expanding space.
 

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