Questions about my stratosphere photos

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The discussion revolves around the differences in sky appearance in photographs taken from the stratosphere at approximately 28 km altitude. Participants explore potential reasons for the variations in sky color, particularly the contrast between a pitch-black sky in one image and a gradual fade to dark blue in others. The conversation includes considerations of photographic effects, atmospheric conditions, and camera settings.

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  • One participant questions whether the time of day, specifically the sun's position on the horizon, affects the sky's appearance from the stratosphere.
  • Another participant suggests that lens flare from the sun can lighten black areas in photographs, potentially influencing the sky's appearance.
  • A different viewpoint posits that the transition from black space to blue atmosphere depends on the angle of observation, with a high angle showing less atmosphere compared to a horizontal view.
  • Concerns are raised about whether the comparison of images is valid, considering differences in lens specifications and angles of view.
  • Participants note that both images were taken with the same camera model, which may mitigate some differences attributed to equipment.

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Participants express differing opinions on the primary reasons for the variations in sky appearance, with no consensus reached on the most significant factors influencing the images.

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Participants acknowledge the potential influence of lens flare and atmospheric thickness but do not resolve the implications of these factors on the images discussed.

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Hi all.

OK so these were shot with the same camera with same settings. Both are supposedly at 28 km altitude in the stratosphere. Why does in the first image (NOT MINE) the sky appear pitch black while on the rest it is slowly fades to dark blue?

Any chance when the sun is in the horizon (evening time) the sky doesn't fade to black as much when looking from the stratosphere? That's the only thing I can think which is different between the first image and the last two.
Or do you think my own payload didn't reach even >15 km altitude?

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more info about how these were shot: habhub.org
 
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lens flare from the sun being in the frame will lighten black areas, a similar effect to "light fogging" photographic film.

Also increasing the contrast can darken the sky ...
 

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B0b-A said:
lens flare from the sun being in the frame will lighten black areas
Thanks. But isn't there lens flare also in the first image where the sky is black?
 
my semi-educated assumption would be because you are fading down from the black of space to the blue of the atmosphere
Looking straight out at a high angle, the atmosphere ,what's left of it will be VERY thin.
But looking horizontally along the line of the curvature, you are looking through a much thicker layer of atmosphere and hence you can detect it easier Dave
 
avidemux said:
Thanks. But isn't there lens flare also in the first image where the sky is black?
There is flare on the right-hand-side of the Santa picture. Whether or not that flare extended across the entire frame would be dependent on the design [and cost] of the lens , (e.g. how many anti-reflective coatings the optics had).

I just occurred to me you may not be comparing like with like : If the Santa lens had a wider angle of view than your lens that could explain why more of the "sky" is black in the Santa picture. At the same altitude a wider angle-of-view sees further out into black space.
 
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We both used the same cameras with the same lens (GoPro Hero 3)
 
I still go with what I suggested rather than anything to do with lens flare as being the significant reason :smile:

Dave
 

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