Questions about the Corona virus

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The discussion revolves around various questions related to the structure and survival of the coronavirus, particularly focusing on the presence of water molecules, the role of the lipid layer, and the virus's persistence in different environments. Participants explore theoretical aspects, biological implications, and potential effects of environmental conditions on the virus.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire whether H2O molecules are present inside the coronavirus and if drying the virus would kill it.
  • There is a suggestion that the lipid external layer of the virus acts as a protective barrier rather than a glue, with some proposing that it may become semi-solid in dry conditions.
  • Participants discuss the virus's survival time in dry air and on surfaces, noting that studies report a wide range of results influenced by surface type and environmental conditions.
  • One participant questions how the virus reacts to freezing temperatures and whether freezing would lead to its demise.
  • There is a claim that the virus is not alive and is primarily composed of RNA and a protein coat, with a later clarification that the virus has an envelope derived from phospholipids, which are essential for its structure.
  • Some participants mention the effectiveness of soap in disrupting the lipid bilayer of the virus.
  • Another participant raises concerns about the virus producing unforeseen symptoms and questions how its structure differs from previously studied coronaviruses, potentially leading to unusual pathologies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the role of the lipid layer and the virus's survival characteristics, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the virus's structure and behavior under different environmental conditions, as well as the variability in study results concerning its persistence.

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To know how much we must prevent
1. are there H2O molecules inside a Corona vírus? If yes, drying the virus kills it?
2. the lipid external layer of the Corona virus acts as a glue that attach the virus to any surface?
3. how much time a Corona vírus survives in the dry air? and in a dry surface?
 
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Well, its generally thought drying produces a hostile environment, it certainly does for most cells and the virus will often be carried inside cells.
Having said that the lipid coat isn't a glue, its job is to protect the virus, I know its been suggested that in dry conditions it becomes semi solid protecting the virus from dehydrating.

Most people consider that the virus persists longer in cool dry conditions, its difficult to put a set time on it, there are various studies that have come up with a very wide range of results and these are influenced by the type of surface. It seems fairly clear the virus can remain viable for several hours but some studies have suggested this can extend into days. We don't know the amount of virus that needs to be present to be considered a risk for infection. The greatest risk is from exposure to infected cells, carried in droplets, from a cough or a sneeze from someone in the early stages of infection.
 
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If the virus contains water, freeze and thus perish? Or how does it react to freezing temperatures?
 
The virus is not alive. Think of it as a chemical. We have threads on this subject. This virus has RNA, and a protein coat. That's pretty much all it has. No lipids. This picture shows it in an easy to understand way:

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Schematic-diagram-of-the-SARS-coronavirus-structure-reproduced-from-ref-20The-viral_fig2_8149726

Schematic-diagram-of-the-SARS-coronavirus-structure-reproduced-from-ref-20The-viral.jpg
 
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jim mcnamara said:
No lipids.
Like most viruses, coronaviruses contain an envelope that is derived from phospholipids in the plasma membrane of the cells it infects. The lipids themselves are not encoded by the virus, but they are nevertheless an essential part of the virus's structure. Part of the reason why soap is effective at killing the virus is that it soap can disrupt the lipid bilayer surrounding the virus and inactivate the virus.
 
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@Ygggdrasil Thanks for the correction. Now I have the warm fuzzies from washing my hands frequently :smile:
 
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