Questions about variations on Double Slit experiment

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The discussion revolves around variations of the double slit experiment, focusing on the implications of having photons pass through different configurations of slits and barriers. Participants explore the effects on wave function collapse, interference patterns, and the nature of photons as both particles and waves.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that passing a photon through a single slit before a double slit might cause the wave function to collapse, leading to questions about whether the photon would then pass through only one slit or if it could still exhibit interference.
  • Others argue that placing a barrier between the two slits would prevent interference, raising questions about whether any pattern would still be observed.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the relationship between the wave nature of photons and the concept of "which slit" they pass through, suggesting that if the photon behaves as a wave, it should interfere with itself regardless of the barrier.
  • Another participant asserts that having a single slit does not necessarily turn the photon into a particle and emphasizes that barriers can eliminate interference effects.
  • There is mention of similar experiments being conducted in physics labs, with various objects showing interference patterns, indicating that wave-particle duality is a broader phenomenon.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the implications of the variations discussed. Multiple competing views remain regarding the effects of the single slit and barriers on interference patterns.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the specific outcomes of the proposed variations and whether such experiments have been performed, indicating a lack of definitive references or established results in the discussion.

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I've been wondering about the implications of this experiment and have a couple of questions about variations that I'm wondering if anyone has done. (I did not find any examples of these variations elsewhere).

1) In this variation, you have the photon pass through the slits twice. First through a single slit, then through a double slit. My thought is that a single slit, according to my understanding of other experiments, causes the collapse of the wave function, "forcing" the photon to a particle. If it's a particle, then does it go through only 1 of the 2 remaining slits? Or does its wave form "reconstitute" and the same interference pattern is observed?

2) In this variation, a divider or barrier is placed between the two slits - thus theoretically preventing interference. In this case, is an interference pattern observed? Is any pattern observed?

Thanks for your thoughts.
 
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underworld said:
I've been wondering about the implications of this experiment and have a couple of questions about variations that I'm wondering if anyone has done. (I did not find any examples of these variations elsewhere).

1) In this variation, you have the photon pass through the slits twice. First through a single slit, then through a double slit. My thought is that a single slit, according to my understanding of other experiments, causes the collapse of the wave function, "forcing" the photon to a particle. If it's a particle, then does it go through only 1 of the 2 remaining slits? Or does its wave form "reconstitute" and the same interference pattern is observed?

2) In this variation, a divider or barrier is placed between the two slits - thus theoretically preventing interference. In this case, is an interference pattern observed? Is any pattern observed?

Thanks for your thoughts.

1) That does not really change anything.

2) No interference because you know which slit it went through - or could know. That eliminates the the interference effects.
 
DrChinese said:
1) That does not really change anything.
I assume that means the experiment would show an interference pattern (implying that the photon went from particle to wave somewhere along the way).

2) No interference because you know which slit it went through - or could know. That eliminates the the interference effects.

I guess I'm having trouble with this. My understanding (or "interpretation") is that the interference pattern is a result of a wave passing through both slits and interfering with itself. If that's the case, then there would be no concept of "which slit", since it would always be "both slits". But I would expect no interference because the wave would still not be able to interfere with itself due to the barrier.

What I'm curious about is whether such experiments have actually been performed.
 
underworld said:
1. I assume that means the experiment would show an interference pattern (implying that the photon went from particle to wave somewhere along the way).

2. I guess I'm having trouble with this. My understanding (or "interpretation") is that the interference pattern is a result of a wave passing through both slits and interfering with itself. If that's the case, then there would be no concept of "which slit", since it would always be "both slits". But I would expect no interference because the wave would still not be able to interfere with itself due to the barrier.

What I'm curious about is whether such experiments have actually been performed.

1. Having it go through a single slit does not turn it into a "particle".

2. A barrier cutting the apparatus into 2 chambers will eliminate the signature interference effects, as you say. This is the kind of experiment that is usually done in physics labs, not sure I can put a finger on a specific reference. All kinds of objects have been run through double slit setups, not just light. With proper slit size and other parameters, they all show interference. This demonstrates that even matter has both wave and particle properties.
 

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