Questions on Energy changes on a ball

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The discussion revolves around energy changes related to a ball, specifically focusing on work done, potential energy, and kinetic energy as part of a physics exam question.

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  • The original poster attempts to relate changes in kinetic energy to changes in potential energy but expresses confusion about finding the initial speed using energy arguments alone. Other participants question the completeness of the energy considerations and suggest incorporating additional terms related to work done on the system.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering insights into the relationship between work, potential energy, and kinetic energy. There is a recognition that simply equating potential and kinetic energy may not suffice due to the energy added to the system.

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The original poster is preparing for an exam and is working from a past paper, which may impose specific constraints on the problem-solving approach. The discussion includes references to calculations and assumptions that are still under exploration.

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Hi, this is a question from a past paper, for which I have the exam on Monday. Please see the attachments.

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a) w = fx
=(20)(1.5-0.7)
=16J

b)PE=mgh
^PE=(.25)(10)(1.5)-(.25)(10)(.7)
PE=2J

c) ?
when i attempted a solution i used ^KE=^PE
this gave me an answer of v^2=30
I don't understand how I find the initial speed using only energy arguments?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 

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You know how much energy you put into the ball from a). You know how much potential energy the ball has from b).
Where is the rest of the energy?
 
welcome to pf!

hi adam! welcome to pf! :smile:

(have a delta: ∆ and try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)
adam640 said:
c) … when i attempted a solution i used ^KE=^PE

do you mean the work energy theorem ∆KE + ∆PE = work done ?

show us your calculations :smile:
 
Remember that energy has been put into the system (the ball is moved upward by a hand), so just equating PE and KE will not work, an additional term describing the energy added to the system must be incorporated.

As Betel said you know how much energy has been added to the system (from part (a) of the question)

Good luck with the exam!
 
Thanks!

KE = 1/2 mv2
(16-2) (2) = (0.25)v2
v = (sqrt)112ms-1
 

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