Questions out of curiosity… Enlighten me please

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The discussion revolves around various questions related to celestial observations, including the visibility of the moon, the movement of the sun and stars, and the shapes of celestial bodies. The scope includes conceptual inquiries about astronomy and observational phenomena.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the shapes of the moon are more visible in the morning or evening, with one suggesting it is more visible in the evening due to a dimmer sky.
  • There is uncertainty regarding how long the sun is up, with one participant estimating around 13 hours but acknowledging it varies.
  • Participants discuss whether the sun appears exactly round, with some suggesting it is mostly round but may appear slightly flattened due to atmospheric effects.
  • One participant states that the Big Dipper and Little Dipper move in counter-clockwise circles around the North Star, while another mentions that stars rise in the east and set in the west.
  • There is a question about the movement of Venus and Saturn in the night sky, with responses indicating that their movement can vary relative to background stars.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views and uncertainties regarding the visibility of the moon, the duration of sunlight, and the shapes of celestial bodies. No consensus is reached on several questions, and multiple perspectives are presented.

Contextual Notes

Some responses depend on specific conditions such as the phase of the moon, time of year, and latitude, which are not fully explored in the discussion.

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These questions just popped out of my head while we were gazing the sky with my friend… Can anyone please help me?

1. Are the shapes of the moon likely to be visible in the morning than in the evening? If it is, then where is the sky?
2. Are the shapes of the moon likely to be visible in the evening than in the morning? If it is, then where is the sky?
3. How long is the sun up? Is it always the same number of hours?
4. Does the sun look exactly round?
5. Does either the Big Dipper or Little Dipper, or both, move during the night? If so, in what direction?
6. In what direction do the stars around the planets move? East, west, south or north?
7. Do Venus and Saturn move in the same direction in the night sky?

I tried answering these questions:

1. No.
2. Yes. Up above, the sky is already dim and bleak and this makes us see the moon more visibly.
3. Maybe 13 hours? No, it isn’t always the same number of hours.
4. I guess not?
5. Yes. To the east, I think.
6. To the east?
7. Yes.
 
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~DarkAngel said:
These questions just popped out of my head while we were gazing the sky with my friend… Can anyone please help me?

1. Are the shapes of the moon likely to be visible in the morning than in the evening? If it is, then where is the sky?
2. Are the shapes of the moon likely to be visible in the evening than in the morning? If it is, then where is the sky?
The moon is most visible between sunset and sunrise. Where is appears, and for how long after the Sun sets or before the Sun rises depends on which phase it is in.
3. How long is the sun up? Is it always the same number of hours?
This depends on the time of year and your latitude (How far you are from the Equator. The futher North or South you are, the greater the difference between the longest period of Sun and the shortest.
4. Does the sun look exactly round?
Pretty much yes. You might get some slight flattening of its appearance as it sets, but this is due to atmospheric bending of light.
5. Does either the Big Dipper or Little Dipper, or both, move during the night? If so, in what direction?
Facing North, the Big and Little Dipper traveling in counter-clockwise circles around the North star. The little Dipper actually circles the last star in its handle, which is the North Star.
6. In what direction do the stars around the planets move? East, west, south or north?
All the stars travel in counter-clockwise circles around the North Star, the further from the North Star they are the bigger the circles. For stars far enough away to rise and set against the horizon, they will rise in the East and set in the West.
7. Do Venus and Saturn move in the same direction in the night sky?
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. That is if you mean as measured against the background stars. Ohterwise, they rise and set just like the stars do.
I tried answering these questions:

1. No.
2. Yes. Up above, the sky is already dim and bleak and this makes us see the moon more visibly.
3. Maybe 13 hours? No, it isn’t always the same number of hours.
4. I guess not?
5. Yes. To the east, I think.
6. To the east?
7. Yes.
 
Janus said:
Pretty much yes. You might get some slight flattening of its appearance as it sets, but this is due to atmospheric bending of light.

Can I just add that the sun is slightly oblate due to its rotation pushing the material outwards, so its not perfectly round.
 

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