Quick question about the power industry?

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The discussion revolves around the perceived equivalence of qualifications in the power industry, specifically comparing mechatronic students with minimal power coursework to electrical engineers (EEs) who have completed extensive studies in power. Participants explore the relevance of academic training versus practical industry requirements.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express surprise that mechatronic students with one power course can secure jobs in the power industry similar to those held by EEs with more extensive training.
  • It is noted that the practical tasks in the industry often do not require the depth of knowledge covered in the additional courses, leading to a perception that the academic curriculum may not align with industry needs.
  • One participant reflects on the realization that an engineering degree may not be as relevant in practice as expected, suggesting that the industry values any engineering degree over specific coursework.
  • Another participant argues that the skills learned during an engineering degree, such as problem-solving and understanding underlying principles, are valuable for adapting to new technologies and challenges in the field.
  • Questions are raised about the distinction between the roles of electricians and electrical engineers, with some suggesting that the tasks may overlap significantly.
  • It is proposed that electrical engineers provide guidance to electricians based on standards rather than performing complex calculations in everyday tasks.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the relevance of their academic training in the power industry, with some agreeing that practical skills are prioritized over theoretical knowledge, while others emphasize the importance of a solid educational foundation for long-term adaptability. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the true value of different educational backgrounds in the industry.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in the academic preparation for industry roles, noting that the depth of knowledge from courses may not translate directly to job requirements. There is also an acknowledgment of the evolving nature of technology and regulations that may affect job roles over time.

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I was shocked to learn that any old mechatronic student with one power course can get the same job in the power industry as an EE who did well over 4-5 courses in power. How does that work?

Why aren't EE;s given any extra preference?
 
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As soon as you hit industry you realize exactly how little those 4-5 courses covered.

And although you can derive the phasor diagram for a three phase supply your task is going to be "look up in the wiring standard which type of wire we use for a circuit of X current and order some" rather than, model the heat loss rate of the cable under these conditions and calculate the optimal diamter.
 
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So with my EE degree - its basically just a choice of what I want to learn. In the end - the Industry is just looking for any engineering degree and nothing we learned in College is relevant.

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I think I'm even more shocked now with this realization
 
Ian_Brooks said:
In the end - the Industry is just looking for any engineering degree and nothing we learned in College is relevant.
I think I'm even more shocked now with this realization
But that's a GOOD thing - if you only needed what you learned in your degree then;
1, You wouldn't need to learn anything in the next 40 years in your job - doesn't sound that interesting.
2, As new technologies/methods/regulations come out they would fire you and hire a new crop of graduates who had learned that stuff in their degrees.

Your degree will be more useful than someone who has just done a short course - you learned how to study, you learned some useful numercial/statistical techniques but most importantly you learned the background to understand WHY something behaves the way it does. So when you come across something that no one has seen before you have the tools to deal with it.
 
mgb_phys said:
As soon as you hit industry you realize exactly how little those 4-5 courses covered.

And although you can derive the phasor diagram for a three phase supply your task is going to be "look up in the wiring standard which type of wire we use for a circuit of X current and order some" rather than, model the heat loss rate of the cable under these conditions and calculate the optimal diamter.
Your job description sounds just like that of an electrician, so, what's the difference between an electrician and an electrical engineer in the power industry?
 
Defennnder said:
Your job description sounds just like that of an electrician, so, what's the difference between an electrician and an electrical engineer in the power industry?

An electrical engineer engineer reads the wiring standard and tells the electrician which wire to install.
 

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