Quick Resultant Forces Question

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The discussion revolves around calculating resultant forces using vector components based on given magnitudes and angles. The subject area is physics, specifically focusing on vector addition and trigonometric functions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to resolve the x,y coordinates for a force vector at 250 degrees, questioning how to express this angle in terms of trigonometric functions. Some participants suggest that a calculator may be necessary for this calculation, while others mention the potential for expressing the angle using trigonometric identities.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to express the trigonometric functions for the angle in question. There is acknowledgment of the need for a calculator, and some guidance has been provided regarding the use of trigonometric identities.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of expressing certain angles in trigonometric terms, with a focus on the limitations of manual calculations versus calculator use. The original poster's inquiry reflects a common challenge in physics problems involving angles not easily represented on the unit circle.

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Homework Statement


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So we have 65N @ 30*, 30N @ 180* and 20N at 250*

Homework Equations



Ncos(angle)i + Nsin(angle)j

The Attempt at a Solution



Using this video



I did the following.

F1(65N) = 65cos(30)i+65sin30i

Then using the radian circle I saw that 30* has x,y coordinates of sqrt3/2 and 1/2 respectively. So as shown in the video I did

65(root3/2)i+65(1/2)j

= 56.3i + 32.5j

I did this for the left one too (30N).

But for the one at the bottom (20N) I get the degree of it to be 250. (270-20) = 250.

250* is not on the radian circle so how can I write 250* in terms of x,y coordinates?
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If we look at this radian circle. We see that 240* = (-1/2, -sqrt3/2) and then it goes to 270* = (0,-1). How can I find the x,y coordinates for 250* and use it in the equation?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Pablo1122 said:
How can I find the x,y coordinates for 250* and use it in the equation?
I don't believe that trig functions of that particular angle can be simply expressed. (Like the others can.) You'll need a calculator.
 
Doc Al said:
I don't believe that trig functions of that particular angle can be simply expressed. (Like the others can.) You'll need a calculator.

Ah yes, I just found this out. Thanks!
 
Doc Al said:
I don't believe that trig functions of that particular angle can be simply expressed. (Like the others can.) You'll need a calculator.
If it's a matter of expressing it in surds, you can use the usual expansion of sin(3x), with x=20o, and apply the formula for solving cubics.
 

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