Racecar travelling a banked curve

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The problem involves a racecar traveling at a speed of 120 km/h on a banked curve with no friction, and participants are tasked with finding the radius of the turn given a banking angle of 25 degrees.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to approach the problem and seeks hints or ideas. Some participants suggest considering the forces acting on the car and relate them to centripetal force. Others question how to incorporate mass into their calculations, given that it is not provided.

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Participants are exploring different equations related to forces and centripetal motion. Some have made attempts to derive relationships between the forces involved, while others are still seeking clarification on how to proceed with the calculations. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

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Participants are working under the constraint of not having the mass of the racecar, which is leading to discussions about how to handle this variable in their equations.

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Homework Statement



A racecar is traveling at a speed of 120km/h on a banked curve (no friction). What is the radius of the rotation if the turn is banked at an angle of 25 degrees to the horizontal?

Homework Equations



v = 120 km/h
angle = 25 degrees
r = ?

The Attempt at a Solution



I have no idea how to approach this problem. Help? Ideas? Hints? :(
 
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Here's the hint: If the car were sitting on tilted track completely still, only the friction of the wheels would keep it from sliding inwards (towards the center of the circular path). What force is acting on the car in this case?

It ought to be that this force acting on the car equals the force required to keep it on the circular path.

The equation for centripetal force (the force required to keep an object on a circular path) is this:
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where F = the force required to keep the object on a circular path, v is the velocity of the object, and r is the radius of the circular path.
 
Okay, so I should use the force equation. What should I substitute for mass, as that is not given?
 
There is another equation, which it is up to you to find.

This is another equation for force will also involve mass (allowing you to cancel it out). It is an equation for the force which would cause a ball to roll to the side of a tilted track.
 
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Alright, here's what I have done. I didn't know how to incorporate the centripetal force formula though...

I split Fn into two components, the vertical and the horizontal.
Fy = force of gravity = m*g
Fx = some force = m*a

theta = 25 degrees

tan25 = m*a / m*g
- the masses cancel out
tan25 = a / g
tan25(g) = a
a = 4.57 m/s^2

a = v^2 / r
4.57 m/s^2 = (33.3333 m/s)^2 / r
r = 243m

Is this right? D:
 

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