Rack and Pinion Calculation help

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The discussion revolves around the design concept of a rack and pinion system intended for power generation. Participants explore calculations related to torque, power generation figures, and the mechanics of the system involving a descending weight and its effects on a generator. The focus is on theoretical assessments rather than practical homework solutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant, Dave, describes a design concept where a weight of 3300 N drives a rack to rotate a pinion connected to a generator system.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on the mechanics of the system, questioning what happens when the rack reaches the end of its motion and requesting more specific questions or figures.
  • A participant calculates the torque applied to the shaft as the product of the pitch diameter of the pinion and the weight.
  • There is a correction regarding the terminology used, with a participant suggesting that "pitch radius" is the more accurate term than "pitch diameter" for calculating torque.
  • A later reply provides formulas for estimating power and energy, suggesting that the upper limit for power can be calculated using P = Fv and available energy using E = mgh.
  • Participants discuss the implications of the calculated energy in terms of real-world comparisons, such as energy released by burning fuels.

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Participants express differing views on the specifics of the calculations and the mechanics of the system. There is no consensus on the exact questions being posed or the best approach to the design concept.

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Some assumptions regarding the system's mechanics and the definitions of terms like "pitch diameter" and "pitch radius" remain unresolved. The discussion does not clarify the full scope of the design or the practical limitations of the proposed calculations.

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Just to be aware this isn't homework this is a design concept and although calculations aren't required I'd like to assess a rough assessment of possible power generation figures.

The concept is a weight which pushes down upon the rack hence turning a pinion on a shaft which has lots of of these rack pinion systems, they are all connected to one shaft which in turn is connected to a flywheel/alternator system.

All material I've found to help myself, only looks at an motion input from the shaft not the rack and only looks to solve factor and safety issues (which of course are important).

Would anyone be so kind as to give some pointers or possible documents which may assist me.

Weight applied = 3300 N
Rack and Pinion dimensions we be reverse engineered from possible generator figures.

Regards

Dave
 
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Do I understand that you want a descending weight to drive the rack which in turn rotates the generator? What will you do when the rack gets to the end of its motion? What exactly is your question? A figure would probably help.
 
Torque applied to shaft = (pitch diameter of pinion) X 3300N
 
tygerdawg, are you sure you mean "pitch diameter"? Wouldn't pitch radius be more correct?

With the correct radius, this should give the torque applied to the shaft. It does not, however, address the separating force between the pinion and the rack.
 
Yup, you're correct: pitch radius.

(It's the drugs. That's my excuse, and I'm sticking to it.)
 
I have drawn a figure here to assist.
Sorry about the grey scale.
Note: the box at the end would be an alternator or similar.
 

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It's still not clear what exactly it is you'd like to know. If it's this:

EngineeringDave said:
I'd like to assess a rough assessment of possible power generation figures.

You can get an upper limit for power via
P = Fv

An upper limit for available energy can be found via:
E = mgh

Let's say your rack is 10 m tall
mg = F = 3300 N
Then
E = mgh = 3300 N * 10 m = 33,000 J = 33 kJ

Wolframalpha can give a sense of scale to that value:
~~ 1.2 × energy released by burning 1 gram of ethanol (~~ 27000 J )
~~ 0.84 × energy released by burning 1 gram of coal (~~ 39000 J )
~~ 0.87 × metabolic energy of one gram of fat (~~ 38000 J )

~~ 9.2 Wh (About enough to charge up one cellphone...)

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=33kJ
 

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