I Radial dependence of the Sun's magnetic field

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The discussion centers on the formula for the radial dependence of the Sun's magnetic field, specifically ##B(r) \approx B_{\odot} \Big(\frac{R_{\odot}}{r}\Big)^{1/2}##, with ##B_\odot \approx 0.0001 T##. A participant questions the derivation of this formula, initially suggesting that magnetic flux conservation leads to an inverse square relationship, which is incorrect for close-range behavior around the Sun. The conversation clarifies that while magnetic flux is conserved, the behavior of magnetic fields does not necessarily follow the inverse square law due to the nature of dipoles. At larger distances, the inverse square law may apply to single poles, but when considering both poles, the effect is often inverse cube. The discussion emphasizes the complexity of magnetic field behavior in relation to distance from the Sun.
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I was solving some problems from a textbook and I found this formula for the radial dependence of the sun's magnetic field, ##B(r) \approx B_{\odot} \Big(\frac{R_{\odot}}{r}\Big)^{1/2}##, where ##B_\odot \approx 0.001T## is the magnetic field strength in the photosphere.
But how can this formula be derived and what principles are used for that?
I am thinking about assuming that magnetic flux is conserved, ##4\pi R_\odot^2 B_\odot=4 \pi r^2 B(r)##. Thus ##B(r)=B_\odot \Big(\frac{R_\odot}{r}\Big)^2##, but the exponent is 2 instead of 1/2.
Why am I wrong? Doesn't the magnetic flux conserve?
 
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The sources for this magnetic field are currents that can be from different locations around the sun. The equation is apparently applicable at distances ## r ## from the center that are on the order of the radius of the sun. For this kind of close range behavior, you can not expect to see inverse square law type behavior. ## \\ ## Meanwhile, for magnetic fields, ## \nabla \cdot B=0 ## says that the magnetic lines of flux are conserved. For magnetic type sources, e.g. sources consisting of what can be approximated by something such as a cylindrical magnet with two poles, that doesn't necessarily mean that inverse square law behavior will occur. It simply means the flux lines for ## B ## are continuous as they go through the magnet and emerge from one end and return in the other. See https://www.google.com/imgres?imgur...hUKEwikmtrR74HdAhVCAqwKHZ5-Ar4Q9QEwAHoECAcQBg ## \\ ## And you might want to check the decimal place on your formula. A google shows the magnetic field of the sun near and around its surface is ## B \approx 1.0 ## gauss ## =0.0001 \, T ##.
 
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Thank you for the explanation.
Yes, you are right. It is ##0.0001 T##.
Can the inverse square law be used at a larger distance from the sun? Let's say ##r \approx 50R_\odot##.
 
prodi said:
Thank you for the explanation.
Yes, you are right. It is ##0.0001 T##.
Can the inverse square law be used at a larger distance from the sun? Let's say ##r \approx 50R_\odot##.
For the effect of the field from a single pole, such as the + pole of a permanent magnet, the inverse square law can apply, but when the effects of two poles (+ and -) are considered together, the result is often inverse cube. So the answer to that is no.
 
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Charles Link said:
when the effects of two poles (+ and -) are considered together, the result is often inverse cube.
From the Wikipedia article on magnetic dipoles...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_dipole

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