Radius of Planet with Double Gravity: Calculating with F=ma

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The discussion revolves around calculating the radius of a planet that has the same mass as Earth but exhibits double the gravitational force experienced by explorers. Participants explore the implications of this scenario using Newton's law of gravitation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between weight and gravitational acceleration, questioning whether gravity is simply doubled. They explore the use of gravitational equations and the implications of using different symbols for clarity in calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to set up the equations correctly, while others express frustration with their calculations and seek confirmation of their results. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the radius of the new planet and that of Earth.

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Participants note that the problem involves specific assumptions about mass and weight, and there is a mention of constraints related to the units required for the final answer.

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If the question reads:
Space explorers land on a planet that has the same mass as Earth, but they find they weigh twice as much as they would on Earth
What is the radius of the planet?


Do I assume the 'g" = 9.8(2) ?
Since they weight twice as much...does that mean the gravity is doubled?

Im going to use the eqn. F(ma)=GMm/r^2
 
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Yes, you can.
 
Can anyone please check the math?
I get 4.50e6 which sounds right meters...
But masteringphysics is telling me I am wrong
I did:

(6.67e-11)(5.98e24)/19.62=r^2

19.62 came from 9.8(2) since they wieght twice as much...
Thankyou for your help.
 
Seems ok to me.
 
Hi Lance! :smile:
Lance WIlliam said:
Do I assume the 'g" = 9.8(2) ?

No … you needn't assume anything about g …

this will work for any two planets of the same mass where the weight differs by a factor of 2.
Im going to use the eqn. F(ma)=GMm/r^2

ok … but you'll have to write it twice, won't you, with an r1 and an r2? :smile:
 
Lance:
It just gets messy with writing digits!
Instead, use better symbols like this:
[tex]m_{e},r_{e},w_{e}, m[/tex]
which means mass of earth, radius of Earth, weight on Earth and mass of explorer, respectively..
These quantities are related by the following equation:
[tex]w_{e}=\frac{Gm_{e}m}{r_{e}^{2}}(*)[/tex]
On new planet "p", we also have the equation:
[tex]w_{p}=\frac{Gm_{p}m}{r_{p}^{2}}(**)[/tex]
You are given the following information:
[tex]m_{p}=m_{e},w_{p}=2w_{e}[/tex]
Inserting these into (**), we get:
[tex]2w_{e}=\frac{Gm_{e}m}}{r_{p}^{2}}(***)[/tex]
Now, perform the division (***)/(*), and we get:
[tex]\frac{2w_{e}}{w_{e}}=\frac{\frac{Gm_{e}m}{r_{p}^{2}}}{\frac{Gm_{e}m}{r_{e}^{2}}}[/tex]
which simplifies to:
[tex]2=(\frac{r_{e}}{r_{p}})^{2}[/tex]
Now, you can solve this equation for the planet radius in terms of the Earth radius, only THEN introduce digits!
 
I get 4.51e6 which is still wrong...I hate online homeowrk...:(
 
Lance WIlliam said:
I get 4.51e6 which is still wrong...I hate online homeowrk...:(

I think that answer is correct, if the units are supposed to be meters. Are you supposed to use a different unit?
 
the units they want just say R_p_=(answer) R_e_
 
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Ahh right that explains it. What do you multiply the Earth's radius by to get the planets radius?
 
  • #11
So my (answer) times 2?
 
  • #12
No, the radius of the planet is definitely not twice the Earth's radius. You can work it out since you have both quantities. Just rearrange the equation in post # 9 or follow arildno's post for hints.
 
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.707(R_e_) Got it.
Thankyou!
 

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