Radius of the path of an electron in a magnetic field?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the radius of the path of 15 MeV electrons in a magnetic field of 0.7 T using the formula r = mv/qB. The initial calculation yielded a radius of 0.002354 m, but after correcting the approach to relate energy to momentum, the radius was recalculated to be 0.071 m. The final energies corresponding to the ±5% variation in radius were determined to be approximately 14.2 MeV and 15.7 MeV. The participants confirmed the validity of the calculations and the use of relativistic equations throughout the process.

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  • Understanding of relativistic energy equations, specifically E = m₀c²/√(1 - (v/c)²)
  • Familiarity with the formula for the radius of charged particles in a magnetic field, r = mv/qB
  • Knowledge of momentum and its relation to energy in relativistic contexts, E² = (pc)² + (m₀c²)²
  • Basic understanding of electromagnetic theory, particularly the behavior of charged particles in magnetic fields
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Homework Statement


15MeV electrons, enter magnetic field with strength of 0.7T. What is the radius of the path of the electrons? What energies could the electrons have and be confined to orbits with radii within 5% of the 15MeV electrons?


Homework Equations



E = \frac{m_{0}c^{2}}{\sqrt{1-\left(\frac{v}{c}\right)^{2}}}

r = \frac{mv}{qB}

The Attempt at a Solution



I solved for v using relativistic energy equation. I got:

v = c \sqrt{\left(1-\frac{m_{0}c^{2}}{E}\right)^{2}}

v = 2.898x10^{8} m/s

and plugged that value into formula for radius

r = \frac{\left(9.11x10^{-31}kg\right)\left(2.898x10^{8} m/s\right)}{\left(1.602x10^{-19}C\right)\left(0.7T\right)}

I get r = 0.002354m

I then take \pm5% of the radius and get 0.0022363m to 0.0024717m

When I take the radius r=0.0022363 and work backwards by using it to find the velocity then energy I get a scant 1.3 MeV

and when I take r = 0.0024717m and work backwards, I end up with a velocity greater than c!

Is my approach correct?

Thank you
 
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It's
r = \frac{p}{qB} = \frac{\gamma mv}{qB}
for a relativistic electron. (I'd encourage you to try to prove this yourself, it's not that complicated)

Also, you can save some work by not solving for v, if you can directly relate energy to momentum.
 
diazona said:
It's
r = \frac{p}{qB} = \frac{\gamma mv}{qB}
for a relativistic electron. (I'd encourage you to try to prove this yourself, it's not that complicated)

Also, you can save some work by not solving for v, if you can directly relate energy to momentum.

Thank you for the reply. I corrected the formula for r, and I took your advice and related energy to momentum.

results:

r = \frac{p}{qB} = \frac{\gamma mv}{qB}

E^{2} = \left(pc\right)^{2} + \left(m_{0}c^{2}\right)^{2}

p = \frac{\sqrt{E^{2} - \left(m_{0}c^{2}\right)^{2}}}{c}

p = \frac{\sqrt{\left(2.4x10^{-12}J\right)^{2} - \left(8.187x10^{-14}J\right)^{2}}}{3x10^{8}\frac{m}{s}} = 7.995x10^{-21} kg\frac{m}{s}

r = \frac{7.995x10^{-21} kg\frac{m}{s}}{\left(1.602x10^{-19}\right)\left(0.7T\right)} = 0.071m

\pm 5% of 0.071m = 0.0677m\rightarrow 0.0749m

p = rqB

r = 0.0677 m

p = \left(0.0677 m\right)\left(1.1214x10^{-19}\right)\frac{kg}{s} = 7.596x10^{-21} kg\frac{m}{s}

E = \sqrt{\left[\left(7.596x10^{-21} kg\frac{m}{s}\right)\left(3x10^8 \frac{m}{s}\right)\right]^{2} + \left(8.187x10^{-14}kg \frac{m^{2}}{s^{2}}\right)^{2}} = 2.28x10^{-12}kg \frac{m^{2}}{s^{2}} = 14.2MeV

Then do the same for r = 0.0749m, and E = 15.7MeV

I believe this looks right, any thoughts?

Thank you
 

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