Raising and lowering operators

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I'm confused about these two forms of the raising/lowering operators for the harmonic oscillator.
When each one is used?

[tex] a_+\psi_n=i\sqrt{(n+1)\hbar\omega} \psi_{n+1}[/tex]
[tex] a_-\psi_n=-i\sqrt{n\hbar\omega} \psi_{n-1}[/tex]

[tex] a_+|\psi_n\rangle=\sqrt{n+1} |\psi_{n+1}\rangle[/tex]
[tex] a_-|\psi_n\rangle=\sqrt{n} |\psi_{n-1}\rangle[/tex]
 
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ansgar said:
what?

Oops! I had pushed the submit button before ending the post. Now it is corrected.
 
it depends if you use bra-ket or "function" notation for your physics.