Undergrad ##Tr([Q,P])## and Ballentine Problem 6.3

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The discussion centers on solving Ballentine's Problem 6.3, specifically addressing the trace of the commutator of infinite-dimensional matrices ##Q## and ##P##. Participants conclude that the trace of the commutator ##[Q, P] = i\hbar## cannot be zero, as the matrices ##QP## and ##PQ## are not trace-class. The key insight is that the trace is ill-defined due to the divergence of the infinite sums involved, leading to the paradoxical conclusion that ##\hbar = 0## being invalid. The resolution lies in recognizing that the canonical commutation relations cannot be satisfied by finite-dimensional matrices.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of quantum mechanics and operators, specifically the canonical commutation relations.
  • Familiarity with trace operations in linear algebra, particularly in infinite-dimensional spaces.
  • Knowledge of matrix theory, including trace-class operators and their properties.
  • Proficiency in LaTeX for mathematical notation and expressions.
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  • Study the properties of trace-class operators in quantum mechanics.
  • Learn about the implications of the canonical commutation relations in infinite-dimensional Hilbert spaces.
  • Explore the concept of convergence in infinite sums and its relevance to operator traces.
  • Review the mathematical foundations of quantum mechanics as presented in Ballentine's textbook.
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Students and professionals in quantum mechanics, particularly those focusing on operator theory and the mathematical foundations of quantum systems. This discussion is beneficial for anyone grappling with the subtleties of infinite-dimensional spaces and trace operations.

  • #31
PeterDonis said:
[...] taking the trace (and seeing that it gives an infinite sum of terms each of which is ##i \hbar##) is simple.
No, it's not. An infinite sum like ##(\sum_{n=0}^\infty 1)## is divergent.
 
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  • #32
strangerep said:
An infinite sum like ##(\sum_{n=0}^\infty 1)## is divergent.
Yes, I know that. I'm just saying that that infinite sum is what formally taking the trace of the infinite identity matrix gives you. I think something like that is what Ballentine intends to illustrate with the problem under discussion.
 

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