Random Question About pushing a pole at c

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the question of whether two people holding a pole on separate planets would feel a push from the other instantaneously, particularly considering the implications of material rigidity and the speed of light. The scope includes conceptual exploration of elasticity, rigidity, and the transmission of forces in materials.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether a push from one person to another holding a pole could be felt instantaneously without violating the speed of light, suggesting that the answer relates to the elasticity of the material.
  • Another participant asserts that there is no such thing as a "rigid" pole and states that impulses travel at the speed of sound in the material, which is significantly slower than the speed of light.
  • A later reply references a related thread, indicating that this question has been discussed previously.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus, as there is a disagreement regarding the concept of rigidity in materials and the implications for the transmission of forces.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the nature of rigidity and the speed of sound in materials, as well as the assumptions underlying the question of instantaneous force transmission.

Eric Hanaway
From time to time I like to chat with flat Earthers and help them clear up their confusion. Today I came upon a question I couldn't answer, and since it is summer, I couldn't ask a professor.

Would two people, on two separate planets, holding one pole, feel a push from the other instantaneously without violating the speed of light? I realize the answer is in the elasticity of the material, but what if the material was rigid?

This might be an easy question to answer, but I am at the beginning of my studies.
 
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Eric Hanaway said:
From time to time I like to chat with flat Earthers and help them clear up their confusion. Today I came upon a question I couldn't answer, and since it is summer, I couldn't ask a professor.

Would two people, on two separate planets, holding one pole, feel a push from the other instantaneously without violating the speed of light? I realize the answer is in the elasticity of the material, but what if the material was rigid?

This might be an easy question to answer, but I am at the beginning of my studies.
This question, in one form or another, is asked here a couple of times a month, at least. There is no such thing as a "rigid" pole and impulses travel at the speed of sound in the material. Compared to c, this speed is approximately zero.
 
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The question is answered, and to all who are interested where exactly:
phinds said:
There is no such thing as a "rigid" pole and impulses travel at the speed of sound in the material.
so I close the thread.
 
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