Ratio of the rate of decay of R to that of S after 2 hours

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The discussion revolves around the decay rates of two radioactive sources, R and S, which initially contain the same number of nuclei. The half-lives are given as 2 hours for R and 1 hour for S. Participants are exploring the ratios of their decay rates at different time intervals, specifically after 2 hours.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of decay rates and ratios, with some attempting to derive the rates using the half-life information. Questions arise regarding the requirements of the problem, particularly for parts (a) and (b). There is also a mention of the proportionality of decay rates to the remaining number of nuclei.

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Some participants have provided calculations for the decay rates and ratios, while others suggest that simpler approaches may exist. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the half-lives and decay rates, with differing interpretations of the problem requirements.

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Participants note that the decay rates are proportional to the remaining number of nuclei, and there is a discussion about using ratios rather than detailed calculations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the requirements for specific parts of the problem.

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At a certain time, two radioactive sources R and S contain the same number of radioactive nuclei. The half-life is 2 hours for R and 1 hour for S. Calculate:

(a) the ratio of the rate of decay of R to that of S at this time.
(b) the ratio of the rate of decay of R to that of S after 2 hours.
(c) the proportion of the radioactive nuclei in S which have decayed in 2 hours.

Answers: (a) 1 : 2, (b) 1 : 1, (c) 75 %.

2. The attempt at a solution
I get how to approach (c). At t = 0 hours we have 100 % of S, in 1 hour we'll have 50 % of it and in one more hour we'll have half of that -- 25 %. So in two hours 75 % of S decayed.

Though I don't quite understand what is required in (a) and (b). In both cases they decay 1 : 2, since S decays faster. Maybe I miss something.
 
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Note that the rate of decay is proportional to the remaining number of nuclei.
 
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Jonathan Scott said:
Note that the rate of decay is proportional to the remaining number of nuclei.
(a) t = 0. dN / dt = ?
NR = 100 % = NS.
T1/2 R = 2 hours
T1/2 S = 1 hour.
dN / dt = - λ N
dN / dt = - (ln 2 / T1/2) * N

R [dN / dt] = 9.6 * 10-5
S [dN / dt] = 1.9 * 10-4

R for S = 0.5 or 1 : 2.

(b) t = 2 hours
NR = 50 %, NS = 25 %.
T1/2 R = 2 hours
T1/2 S = 1 hour.
dN / dt = - λ N
dN / dt = - (ln 2 / T1/2) * N

R [dN / dt] = 9.6 * 10-5 * 0.5 = 4.8 * 10-5
S [dN / dt] = 1.9 * 10-4 * 0.25 = 4.75 * 10-5

R for S = 1 : 1.

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Probably (I haven't checked carefully) but that's far more complicated than you need, as you can simply use ratios between the two cases rather than working them out. As you've already used above, exponential decay rates vary as the inverse of the half life, so if the half lives are in the ratio m:n then the decay rates for the same number of nuclei are in the ratio n:m. Then after 2 hours the amount of R is 1/2 of the original and the amount of S is 1/4 of the original, so there's now twice as much R left as S.
 
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