Ray diagrams (lenses) problem. I need full explanations.

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The discussion revolves around ray diagrams related to lenses, specifically focusing on a thin converging lens with an object placed at a certain distance. The original poster presents a problem involving the paths of light rays through the lens to determine the image formed.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the accuracy of the drawn rays in the original post, questioning whether they represent the principal and central rays correctly. There are inquiries about the behavior of light rays as they interact with the lens, particularly regarding rays traveling upwards and downwards from the object.

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Some participants have provided clarifications on the types of rays that should be considered for accurate ray diagrams. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct paths of light rays and their convergence, with no explicit consensus reached on the original poster's diagram.

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Participants note that the original diagram may not conform to standard ray diagram conventions for a thin converging lens, and there is a mention of the need for correct identification of rays that contribute to image formation.

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Ray diagrams (lenses) urgent problem. I need full explanations.

1. The question

An object of height 2cm is placed 15 cm from a thin converging lens of focal length 10cm.
Complete the paths of two rays on the figure to show their passage through the lens to the image formed.

2. The attempt

http://www.flickr.com/photos/56105561@N05/5427538657/

If I have drawn wrongly, please kindly pinpoint the mistakes and suggest your answers. Thank you so much and have a nice day!
 
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The rays given in the figure are not the principle ray nor the central ray, and neither passes through the focus on the object side. It doesn't look like these rays will converge at an image.

Look at a https://sites.google.com/a/ggwo.org/ggca_science_lab/Home/physics/physics-light-and-optics/physics-lenses" .
 
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Thank you gneill, but I want to clarify my doubts:

the thing is that one light ray travels downwards and the other upwards from the top extremity of the object to meet the convex lens. The website you suggested doesn't give a ray diagram that has a light ray traveling upwards from the object. Can you help me?
 


danteNewton said:
Thank you gneill, but I want to clarify my doubts:

the thing is that one light ray travels downwards and the other upwards from the top extremity of the object to meet the convex lens. The website you suggested doesn't give a ray diagram that has a light ray traveling upwards from the object.

That's right! They don't show your rays because, for a thin converging lens, they won't converge on the image; they are divergent rays that do not contribute to the formation of the image.

The rays that will define the extent of the image are:

1. The ray along the lens axis (which is not refracted as its angle of incidence with all surfaces of the lens is 90°);

2. The principle ray which travels horizontally from the head of the object to the lens and is refracted so that when it emerges it passes through the focus on the opposite side of the lens; and

3. The 'straight through' ray that goes from the top of the object straight through the center of the lens and out the other side -- the lens refractions cancel for this ray, so it doesn't deviate from a straight line.

Rays 2 and 3 converge at the head of the image (the image is inverted). Ray 1 defined the foot of the image.
 

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