Rayleigh quotient Eigenvalues for a simple ODE

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The discussion focuses on the application of the Rayleigh quotient to estimate eigenvalues for the ordinary differential equation (ODE) $$f'' = -\lambda f$$ with boundary conditions $$f(0)=f(1)=0$$. The eigenfunctions are given by $$f_n = \sin(n\pi x)$$ and the corresponding eigenvalues are $$\lambda_n = (n\pi)^2$$. The Rayleigh quotient, defined as $$R[\phi] = -\frac{(\phi''_n,\phi_n)}{(\phi_n,\phi_n)}$$, is shown to hold for admissible functions, which must satisfy the boundary conditions and be sufficiently smooth. The discussion clarifies that the Rayleigh quotient provides an upper bound for the eigenvalues and emphasizes the importance of using appropriate trial functions for accurate estimations.

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Hi PF!

Given the ODE $$f'' = -\lambda f : f(0)=f(1)=0$$ we know ##f_n = \sin (n\pi x), \lambda_n = (n\pi)^2##. Estimating eigenvalues via Rayleigh quotient implies $$\lambda_n \leq R_n \equiv -\frac{(\phi''_n,\phi_n)}{(\phi_n,\phi_n)}$$
where ##\phi_n## are the trial functions. Does the quotient hold for all ##n\in\mathbb N##? It seems like it should (I haven't seen the proof so maybe not), but if I let ##\phi_n=x(1-x^n)## then ##R_2 = 10.5## which is larger than ##(2\pi)^2##. What am I doing (understanding) wrong?

Also, the Rayleigh quotient only holds for admissible functions, right (i.e. functions satisfying ##\phi(0)=\phi(1)=0## which are sufficiently smooth)?
 
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joshmccraney said:
Hi PF!

Given the ODE $$f'' = -\lambda f : f(0)=f(1)=0$$ we know ##f_n = \sin (n\pi x), \lambda_n = (n\pi)^2##. Estimating eigenvalues via Rayleigh quotient implies $$\lambda_n \leq R_n \equiv -\frac{(\phi''_n,\phi_n)}{(\phi_n,\phi_n)}$$
where ##\phi_n## are the trial functions. Does the quotient hold for all ##n\in\mathbb N##? It seems like it should (I haven't seen the proof so maybe not), but if I let ##\phi_n=x(1-x^n)## then ##R_2 = 10.5## which is larger than ##(2\pi)^2##. What am I doing (understanding) wrong?
The Rayleigh quotient doesn't quite work like that. Let ##R[\phi] = - (\phi^{\prime\prime},\phi)/(\phi,\phi)## be the Rayleigh quotient. If we order the eigenvalues ##\lambda_1 < \lambda_2 < …## then $$ \lambda_1 = \min_{\phi} R[\phi],$$ where the minimization is over all admissible functions. The function ##\phi_1## that yields ##\lambda_1 = R[\phi_1]## is then the eigenfunction associated with the eigenvalue ##\lambda_1##. For your example, you can use a trial function of ##\phi = x(1-x^n)## and compute ##R[x(1-x^n)]## which is just a function of ##n##. The Rayleigh quotient just tells you $$\lambda_1 \leq \min_n R[x(1-x^n)].$$ You should do this and show us what you get.

If you want to find ##\lambda_2## then you cannot blindly minimize the Rayleigh quotient with a different trial function. The most straightforward option for estimating ##\lambda_2## is to use the fact that $$\lambda_2 = \min_{\phi, \, (\phi, \phi_1)=0} R[\phi],$$ where now the minimization is over all admissible functions that are orthogonal to the first eigenvector. Of course this requires you to know the first eigenvector. Another option is to use the min max theorem (see the section on self-adjoint operators at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Min-max_theorem), which doesn't require you to know the first eigenvector but is not exactly simple.
joshmccraney said:
Also, the Rayleigh quotient only holds for admissible functions, right (i.e. functions satisfying ##\phi(0)=\phi(1)=0## which are sufficiently smooth)?
yes

hope that helped,
 
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