Re-Learning Math: A Comprehensive Approach

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The discussion revolves around the participant's desire to re-learn mathematics in a more rigorous, proof-based manner, addressing concerns about traditional memorization-focused teaching methods. The scope includes personal learning strategies, recommended texts, and the structure of a mathematics curriculum from high school through advanced topics.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) expresses a need to approach mathematics through proofs rather than memorization, citing a desire to mitigate the effects of traditional teaching methods.
  • The OP lists a variety of texts they plan to use for different areas of mathematics, including calculus, differential equations, and real analysis.
  • Some participants propose that while proofs can enhance understanding, they may also hinder it in certain contexts, suggesting that understanding ideas is more crucial than formal proofs.
  • One participant questions the feasibility of reviewing all high school mathematics, suggesting that it may be more effective to review topics as needed while studying higher-level mathematics.
  • The OP reflects on their learning style, indicating a preference for understanding concepts deeply rather than relying on memorization.

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Participants express differing views on the necessity and effectiveness of reviewing all high school mathematics before advancing to higher-level topics. There is no consensus on the best approach to re-learning mathematics, with some advocating for a proof-based method while others emphasize the importance of understanding concepts over formal proofs.

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Participants note potential gaps in knowledge that could arise from skipping foundational topics, but there is uncertainty about the best way to address these gaps. The discussion does not resolve the question of how to best structure the re-learning process.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals seeking to re-learn mathematics with a focus on understanding through proofs, as well as those interested in exploring different educational approaches to mathematics and science.

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Hello all,

I feel as though I never learned mathematics the right way which severely impacted me from pursuing other science/math careers involving higher mathematics. I feel as though I need to approach mathematics from a proof based manner in order to properly learn. The way that mathematics is taught in the public school system is very memorization based to an extent. However, I am trying to mitigate this effect and re-learn everything I was ever taught (sciences too) in a more rigorous format. So far I have Spivak for Calculus I and II along with Courant Differential and Integral Calculus volumes I and II. For Multivariable Calculus I will be using Shifrin's Multivariable Calculus with linear algebra. Further I will be using Ross and another text for differential equations and later Real Analysis by Ireland and Artin for abstract algebra as well as a discrete mathematics-Lovatz. I wanted to use Feller for Statistics and a few other mathematics texts.

In addition, I will be starting my high school mathematics sequence over again (i.e., starting from algebra). I thought that starting out with number theory along with algebra followed by geometry and algebra II and finally with precalculus. Then I figured my math would be strong enough to get into Spivak and the others. I am not sure where to fit discrete math in with the other mathematics courses. The high school math list is as follows:

Modern School Mathematics Geometry-Jurgensen
Modern Algebra and Trigonometry (Book 2) Structure and Method-Dolciani
Modern Algebra Structure and Method (Book 1)- Dolciani
Modern Introductory Analysis-Dolciani
College Algebra-Charles H. Lehmann
Analytic Geometry by Steen and Ballou (3rd Edition)

We used the Holt, Rinehart, Winston series I believe for every math class I ever took with the exception of college and everyone knows that the Reform Calculus books aren't that great.

-I have noticed that working only difficult problems and taking time on those is better than working a ton of easy problems because the extremely difficult ones test your knowledge and ability to apply/synthesize the material.

Any commentary would be greatly appreciated. What I am basically asking is whether or not this approach is feasible and what are the flaws you currently see in it? What are some improvements that could be made?

Thank you-
 
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I'm not familiar with most of those books, so I can't say too much, but I would point out that "proof-based" is not the opposite of memorization-based. Proofs can help your understanding, but they can also hinder it in some cases. Ideas are more important than formal proofs.

It might take too much time to review all of high school math. It might be a good idea to review some things, but it would probably be better to review as needed by studying calculus, etc. Having gaps in your knowledge can be dangerous, but my hunch is you can figure out the gaps as you go along.
 
Thank you.I was hoping to really figure out a way to fully understand mathematics so that I don't get into much trouble when taking mathematically intensive science courses. I wanted to find a way that was not strongly rooted in memorization but rather in proofs and other forms of mathematical logic. I feel that I have always learned better that way and am just now figuring out how I learn best. I never really questioned the conventional way to learn anything because I didn't know any better. I still don't know everything but I am trying to learn so that I can better myself.
 

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