Re: Stress analysis requirement for fire fighting pipelines

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The discussion centers on the necessity of stress analysis for fire fighting pipelines, particularly in Abu Dhabi. Chris highlights conflicting opinions among engineers regarding the requirement for stress analysis, especially for pipes under 5 inches. It is established that stress analysis is essential not only for thermal expansion but also for factors like weight, nozzle loads, and wind loads. Additionally, CAESAR software can be utilized for stress calculations, even if specific materials are not listed in its database.

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  • Understanding of stress analysis principles in piping systems
  • Familiarity with CAESAR II software for pipe stress analysis
  • Knowledge of ASME B31.1 and B31.3 piping codes
  • Awareness of factors affecting pipe stress, including weight and environmental loads
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  • Research the application of CAESAR II for non-standard materials in stress analysis
  • Study the implications of ASME B31.1 and B31.3 codes on fire fighting pipelines
  • Learn about the impact of external loads on piping systems
  • Investigate best practices for conducting stress analysis on small diameter pipes
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Engineers involved in pipeline design and analysis, particularly those working on fire fighting systems, as well as project managers overseeing compliance with engineering standards.

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Dear All,

I work in an engineering company here in Abu Dhabi, UAE.

Very recently, we have been asked by our clients to perform STRESS ANALYSIS FOR THE FIRE FIGHTING PIPELINES.

But my engineer initially said that for FIGHTING PIPELINES, stress analysis is not required as the water is going to remain still inside the pipes for a long time & also the ambient temperature & fluid temperature is almost the same. Sometime later he said that it is not possible for the line to be modeled in CAESAR (as the pipe material & Spec is not present in CAESAR)

Another engineer said that it shall only be performed for lines 5" & above. Below 5", analysis is not needed.

Can anyone please advice on this.

Thanks.

Chris
 
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Pipe stress analysis is not just performed for thermal expansion due to a temperature difference. Other factors such as the weight of the piping system, imposed nozzle loads and displacement, and wind loads can generate pipe stress. Also, small pipes can generate stress too, so pipes under 5" are not excluded from pipe stress analysis.

Caesar has most of the materials in Piping Codes B31.1 and B31.3. If not listed, you could still use Caesar to figure the actual stresses and then you would need to determine allowable stresses for your particular material.
 

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