Reactions that produce harmless gas

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The discussion centers around identifying chemical reactions that produce harmless gases suitable for inflating latex or rubber balloons. Participants explore various reactants and methods, considering both the efficiency of gas production and the minimization of residual products.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest vinegar and baking soda as a source of carbon dioxide, though there are doubts about its effectiveness for inflating balloons.
  • Others propose using dry ice and water, but express concerns about the temperature of dry ice and its potential effects on the balloon material.
  • One participant mentions the possibility of using a reaction with a low boiling point that evaporates at room temperature.
  • Another participant questions the feasibility of finding a slow chemical reaction that produces a large volume of gas from a small amount of reactants.
  • There is a suggestion to consider azides as a potential source of nitrogen gas, though this raises concerns about safety and complexity.
  • One participant shares a personal experience using sodium bicarbonate and hydrochloric acid to inflate a bag, indicating it was effective.
  • Concerns are raised about the safety of using hydrogen as a gas, with one participant explicitly stating it is not harmless.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the effectiveness and safety of different gas-producing reactions. There is no consensus on a single best method, and multiple competing views remain regarding the suitability of various reactants.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the purity of reactants and the potential for residual products, which may affect the practicality of their suggestions. The discussion includes unresolved questions about the effects of temperature on balloon materials and the safety of certain chemicals.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring practical applications of chemistry in everyday scenarios, particularly in creating safe and effective methods for inflating balloons.

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What reactions with easily obtainable reactants produce large amounts of harmless gas?

We want to make latex or rubber balloons that inflate by themselves. We would also like to reduce the amount of liquid or solid products left in the balloon, if possible.

Thanks!
 
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Vinegar and baking soda make carbon dioxide, which is harmless at small quantities. There is probably something better, but that's the first one that popped into my head.
 
Perhaps something with a very low boiling point, that will evaporate once the balloon gets heated to the room temperature?
 
I don't think Vinegar and baking soda in small quantities are enough to blow up a balloon. I was thinking more along the lines of dry ice + water, but don't know if that will work. and dry ice itself is too cold anyway. the ideal solution would be a fairly slow chemical reaction that start with a bit of reactants and end up producing lots of gas.
 
I doubt you will find something like that (working in terms of chemical reaction). My first idea was dry ice as well.
 
ufo101 said:
I don't think Vinegar and baking soda in small quantities are enough to blow up a balloon. I was thinking more along the lines of dry ice + water, but don't know if that will work. and dry ice itself is too cold anyway. the ideal solution would be a fairly slow chemical reaction that start with a bit of reactants and end up producing lots of gas.

Well, baking soda is sodium bicarbonate (NaHCO3) with a molar mass of 84.007 g/mol. Vinegar is acetic acid (CH3COOH) with a molar mass of 60.05 g/mol. Each molecule of sodium bicarbonate give one molecule of CO2 with a molar mass of 44.0095 g/mol and density of 1.98 g/L as a gas.

So you need 1.98 grams of CO2 for a liter of gas. This is 0.045 mols, which would mean 2.7g of acetic acid, and 3.78g of sodium bicarbonate. There would also be 3.7g of sodium acetate, and 0.81g of water left over. I'd guess a party balloon is about 4 liters, so you'd need about 10g acetic acid, and 15g sodium bicarbonate. I'm not sure how pure sodium bicarbonate baking soda is, or the same for vinegar. If you were looking to do this commercially though you could get them both in bulk.
 
I'd go with just dry ice, really. You need so little that you probably won't need to worry about either the cold, or use water to get it to sublimate faster.
 
The only thing I am not sure about dry ice is whether it will not do damage to the balloon, especially if allowed to contact it directly. It will cool down the surface making it loose its elasticity and being more prone to rupture. Could be that's not an issue.
 
alxm said:
I'd go with just dry ice, really. You need so little that you probably won't need to worry about either the cold, or use water to get it to sublimate faster.

I wonder what the shelf life would be for this propellant?

There has to be a relatively safe azide that you can try. I don't know of any but a sufficiently bulky one should be fairly stable and generate enough N2 to inflate the balloon.

It seems like a lot of work and danger to do such a simple thing, though.
 
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clorox bleach and tin foil.
 
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Hydrogen is NOT a harmless gas.
 
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i used NaHCO3 and HCL and it inflated a 1 quart ziploc bag pretty well
 

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