Rearranging Equations: Making a Variable the Subject

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The discussion revolves around rearranging equations to make a specific variable the subject. The primary equation under consideration is A = B x (C / D) x (E x F), with participants exploring how to isolate the variable D. Additionally, there is a secondary inquiry regarding the placement of the subject variable in an equation.

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  • Participants discuss various methods for isolating D, including dividing both sides by B x (E x F) and inverting terms. There is also a debate about whether it is acceptable to have the subject variable on the right side of an equation, with differing opinions on the conventions of expressing equations.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing different perspectives on the methods for rearranging the equation and the conventions for expressing the subject variable. Some guidance has been offered regarding the steps to isolate D, but no consensus has been reached on the placement of the subject variable.

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Participants are navigating the rules of algebraic manipulation and the conventions of equation formatting, with some expressing uncertainty about the validity of different approaches.

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Hi. With the equation:

A = B x (C / D) x (E x F)

To make D the subject would it be:

(C / D) = B x (E x F) / A

D = (B x (E x F) / A) x C

?

Thanks.
 
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If you were to isolate C/D as you did in your first step, then A should have been the numerator of the right side. While isolating, technically you divide both sides by the same expression (in this case B x E x F to eliminate them from the side where C/D is).

A simpler method would be to apply the associative property of multiplication and just lump B, C, E, and F together so that you end up with (B x C x E x F)/D and isolate D from there.
 
So assuming the commutative properties: D = B x C x E x F / A?
 
questions_uk said:
Hi. With the equation:

A = B x (C / D) x (E x F)

To make D the subject would it be:

(C / D) = B x (E x F) / A
No. To isolate C/D, because in your equation it is multiplied by B and (E x F) you must divide both sides by B x (E x F): C/D= A/(B x (E x F)). Then, to get the D into the numerator, "invert" both sides: D/C= (B x E x F)/A.

[D = (B x (E x F) / A) x C

?

Thanks.
 
HallsofIvy said:
No. To isolate C/D, because in your equation it is multiplied by B and (E x F) you must divide both sides by B x (E x F): C/D= A/(B x (E x F)). Then, to get the D into the numerator, "invert" both sides: D/C= (B x E x F)/A.
So assuming D/C = (B x E x F) / A would it not be D = (B x E x F) / A x C ? Thanks.
 
No, you had it right in your previous post;

you multiply both sides by C in order to get rid of the C on the left hand side which makes the right hand side.

((B x E x F) / A ) x C which as you rightly said before is equal to

(B x E x F x C) / A
 
Thanks!
 
questions_uk said:
So assuming D/C = (B x E x F) / A would it not be D = (B x E x F) / A x C ?


Thanks.
No, it would not! In order to eliminate the C on the left side, you must multiply by C, not divide by it. The way you have written that, C is in the denominator. If you mean D= [(B x E x F)/A] x C write it as D= (B x E x F x C)/A.
 
I have a question on this one: would it be OK when you are changing the subject of a formula to have the subject on the right side of the formula?

Let's suppose you have the following formula:

A + D = 2*E + G

and I want G to be the subject of the formula. Is it OK if I write the answer like:

A + D - 2*E = G ?

Some mathematicians say it is OK to provide the answer in that fashion, but I was taught in high school you should always write the subject on the left side, like this:

G = A + D - 2*E

Am I wrong?
 
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topito2 said:
I have a question on this one: would it be OK when you are changing the subject of a formula to have the subject on the right side of the formula?

It makes no difference.
 
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topito2 said:
A + D - 2*E = G ?

Some mathematicians say it is OK to provide the answer in that fashion, but I was taught in high school you should always write the subject on the left side, like this:

G = A + D - 2*E

Am I wrong?

Its just the same way to express the same thing, neither is right nor wrong. You haven't violated any rules of math.
 

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