Recalibration of a 80g Scale with a 50g Weight

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The discussion revolves around the calibration of an 80g scale that reads inaccurately when a 50g weight is placed on it. Participants explore the implications of the scale's calibration instructions, the characteristics of the weight, and potential solutions for recalibrating the scale.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the scale reads 50.08g when a 50g weight is used, suggesting the scale is off.
  • Another participant questions the brand and appearance of the weight to assess its authenticity and potential impact on the reading.
  • A participant mentions a defect in the weight's marking, speculating that it could contribute to the observed error of 0.08g.
  • One suggestion is to follow the calibration procedure for a 250g scale using the 50g weight, emphasizing the need to tare the scale before weighing.
  • Another participant advises returning the scale to the seller, expressing doubt that the defect in the weight accounts for the entire error but suggesting it could contribute slightly.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the cause of the scale's inaccuracy and the effectiveness of using the 50g weight for recalibration. No consensus is reached regarding the best course of action.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the calibration process and the accuracy of the weight, which may not be fully verified. There is also uncertainty regarding the scale's linearity and the potential effects of its placement on a level surface.

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I bought a 80g x 0.01g scale from ebay and it came with a 50g weight. Now this weight is exactly 50g up to more than 1mg, I suppose? But when I put in on, it read 50.08g. So the scale is off it seems. There are instructions to recalibrate the scale but it seems like the instructions are talking as if I had a 200g scale. It says "To recalibrate, turn on the scale, wait til it read 0.00. Push UCAL. Put a 200g weight on. Wait 3 seconds. Press UCAL. Switch off."

In any case, I have a 80g scale and it came with a 50g weight. Can I still recalibrate the thing with the 50g weight or I'm going to screw it up even more? (I tried asking the compagny that made the scale but no response)

thx :cool:
 
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What brand of scale do you have? What does the 50 g standard weight look like? Does it have a shiny silvery appearance or is it painted?
 
Hi chemisttree,

The weight is like this one: http://www.uptontea.com/shopcart/images/items/AR45-@DFL-200g+weight.gif

But there is a little defect on it... there is "50 g" carved on the top like in the picture, but the "g" is incomplete, so it resembles more a "q" than a "g". This probably means there is extra weight in the weight thatshould be there. Could that little missing branch in the "g" account for the 0.08±0.01g error?

The scale brand is Digital Scale E-S Series (it's a pocket scale). Design-wise it is exactly like this one: http://digitalscales.ca/MX50Gemscale.html
 
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Until you calibrate the instrument at full scale, you won't get an accurate result. You weighed a 50 g weight and read 50.08 g. You should follow the calibration procedure for the 250 g instrument and substitute the 50 g mass. Tare the instrument with no mass on the pan and read the indicator with the 50 g mass on the pan. It should read 50.00 g unless the linearity is screwed up. Linearity is listed for the model you linked to at +/- 0.01 g. To confirm this you will need some more masses. See here for the method.

http://www.iescorp.com/linearity.htm

You might want to confirm that the instrument is on a level surface as well. There is probably no way to adjust the level on this small instrument. You might try small slips of paper if the level is off.
 
If I was you and this happened. I would try to send it back and explain the situation to the seller. Hopefully you could at least exchange it for another one. I doubt that the missing part of the g is responsible for that much of an error but I bet that it could give you at least .01g-.02g maybe .03g but I doubt it would give you much more of an incorrect reading. Is there a hardware store near you with weights?
 

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