Recoil velocity after collision

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The problem involves a collision between a particle of mass 1.00u and a stationary Cu nucleus of mass 62.93u, where the particle rebounds in the opposite direction with a specified speed. The goal is to determine the recoil velocity of the Cu atom in terms of the initial speed v of the particle.

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  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of momentum, with some attempting to set up equations based on initial and final velocities. There are questions regarding the direction of velocities and how to account for them in the momentum equations.

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Several participants are exploring different interpretations of the momentum conservation equation, with some expressing uncertainty about their calculations. Hints regarding the importance of direction in velocity are being shared, and there is a recognition of the need to clarify the setup of the problem.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of vector quantities in momentum conservation and the specific values given in the problem statement. There is a focus on ensuring that the signs of the velocities are correctly assigned based on their directions.

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Homework Statement


A particle of mass 1.00u traveling at speed v, collides with a stationary Cu nucleus of mass 62.93u, and rebounds in the exact opposite direction with a speed of .9687v. What is the recoil velocity of the Cu atom, in terms of v?


Homework Equations


F=ma
P=mv


The Attempt at a Solution


If the recoil of the proton is .9687v and the initial velocity was v, then in order to satisfy conservation of momentum, .0313u/v must be transferred to the Cu atom. To solve for velocity of the Cu atom, use p=mv; 0.0313 = 62.93 x v. Therefore v = 0.0005v.

Am I correct or just going in the completely wrong direction here?
 
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Use conservation of linear momentum, you find that the total linear momentum before collision = v
Total linear momentum after collision remains the same and the sum equals v.
Hint : Account for the direction of the particle after collision
 
sArGe99 said:
Use conservation of linear momentum, you find that the total linear momentum before collision = v
Total linear momentum after collision remains the same and the sum equals v.
Hint : Account for the direction of the particle after collision

I'm getting the same answer, but still feel like I'm on the wrong track.

Total linear momentum = v = 1.0(.9687) + 62.93(0.00050v).
 
diffusion said:

Homework Statement


A particle of mass 1.00u traveling at speed v, collides with a stationary Cu nucleus of mass 62.93u, and rebounds in the exact opposite direction with a speed of .9687v. What is the recoil velocity of the Cu atom, in terms of v?
:cool: What would be the direction of velocity of the particle after the collision?
 
diffusion said:
I'm getting the same answer, but still feel like I'm on the wrong track.

Total linear momentum = v = 1.0(.9687) + 62.93(0.00050v).

Wouldn't it be 1.0(.9687 v)? Velocity is a vector, so we have to take into account the direction the body is moving in..
 
sArGe99 said:
:cool: What would be the direction of velocity of the particle after the collision?

Negative along x-axis for the proton. Positive for the Cu atom.
 
diffusion said:
Negative along x-axis for the proton. Positive for the Cu atom.

Yes.Correct.
So wouldn't one take the velocity of the proton to be negative?
Now, you can write the momentum conservation equation.
 
sArGe99 said:
Yes.Correct.
So wouldn't one take the velocity of the proton to be negative?
Now, you can write the momentum conservation equation.

So if the velocity and therefore momentum of the proton is -.9687, the momentum of the Cu particle would have to be... .9687 + .9687 + 0.0313 = 2.2504. Divide by 62.93 = velocity of 0.0357v.

I'm so far off.
 
The momentum conservation equation would be
v = -0.9687v + 62.93 u
Express u, the recoil velocity of Cu atom in terms of v. That is the way its found out, I believe.
 

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