Recommended quantum mechanics books?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around recommendations for books on quantum mechanics and related mathematical foundations, particularly aimed at a high school student with limited prior knowledge of physics and mathematics. Participants explore the necessary background in mathematics, such as trigonometry and calculus, to effectively understand quantum mechanics and electrodynamics.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to learn quantum mechanics and electrodynamics without prior knowledge of trigonometry, seeking book recommendations.
  • Another participant suggests "Quantum Mechanics" by Shankar and works by Richard Feynman as good starting points.
  • There is a discussion about the prerequisites for understanding Feynman's work, with some participants indicating that a background in multi-variable calculus, differential equations, and linear algebra is necessary for quantum mechanics.
  • One participant emphasizes that while electrodynamics can be conceptually understood without math, a solid foundation in trigonometry and calculus is essential for deeper comprehension.
  • Suggestions for learning resources include non-textbook options like "Calculus Made Easy" and encouragement to master Algebra 2 and Trigonometry before progressing to calculus.
  • Participants stress the importance of patience and hard work in learning physics, with one suggesting that learning trigonometry and calculus is integral to understanding physics concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the necessity of a mathematical foundation for understanding quantum mechanics and electrodynamics, but there are differing views on the extent to which one can engage with these topics without prior knowledge of trigonometry and calculus.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that while conceptual understanding of electrodynamics is possible without advanced math, a comprehensive grasp of quantum mechanics requires specific mathematical skills. There is also mention of varying recommendations for learning resources, reflecting different approaches to the subject matter.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for high school students interested in pursuing physics, educators looking for resource recommendations, and individuals seeking to understand the mathematical prerequisites for advanced physics topics.

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I am a high school student and I have found the desire to figure out quantum mechanics and electrodynmics, I am currently a sophomore and am learning algebra 2 and trig. I have no previous knowledge of physics, pre calc, calc, or even trig. I understand it seems dumb and or foolish I want to learn physics without learning trig first. I am starting to learn pre calc(self taught) and have started reading a book on the history of quantum mechanics. I am determined to learn and understand what quantum mechanics and electrodynamics are before I graduate. After saying this I would like to hear any suggestions on physics texts books or books that will help me learn.

Note, I would also like to learn physics so my next year ap physics class is more understandable.

Thank you for your time.
 
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Oh Richard Feynman he reinvented qed(well solved it to make it finite), I will definitely look into that. What do I need to know to actually understand what it tells me? What are the physics and mathematics courses needed to comprehend it?
 
RnG ramen85 said:
I want to learn physics without learning trig first. I am starting to learn pre calc(self taught) and have started reading a book on the history of quantum mechanics. I am determined to learn and understand what quantum mechanics and electrodynamics are before I graduate.

The things in bold above are two different things. You can learn what electrodynamics is (it is the science of changing electrical fields) and why it's important, and you can even take our word for it that electromagnetic radiation traveling at speed c is predicted by this science, all without any math at all.
But you cannot learn electrodynamics without first learning trig and then basic calculus. You'll also need multi-variable and vector calculus, but you can pick these up in parallel with learning electrodynamics.
 
RnG ramen85 said:
Oh Richard Feynman he reinvented qed(well solved it to make it finite), I will definitely look into that. What do I need to know to actually understand what it tells me? What are the physics and mathematics courses needed to comprehend it?

Feynman's "QED" you can handle with the mathematical background you already have - it's a classic of the "I can't teach you the science, but at least I can tell you what the science does" style of science writing, and I highly recommend it.

To actually understand quantum mechanics, you need multi-variable calculus, some differential equations, and some linear algebra. There aren't any shortcuts here.
 
My advice is be patient, and work hard/ask lots of questions once you take the course.
 
You should think of learning trig and calculus as part of learning Physics. Newton had to invent calculus so he could complete his work on mechanics. It all starts there.
 
Ok would you recommend any pre calc or cqlc books? I will lok into physics once I have complete pre calc
 
RnG ramen85 said:
Ok would you recommend any pre calc or cqlc books? I will lok into physics once I have complete pre calc

Maybe start with a non-textbook like Calculus Made Easy.

But you'll find plenty of other recommendations if you search through this subforum.
 
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Algebra 2 and Trig are what you need to know for calculus, so do the best you can in them, try to master them. Then you'll be ready for calculus and whatever comes after that.
 

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