Rectangles & Squares - Finding a Numerical Measure

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The discussion revolves around finding mathematical measures that quantify how far a rectangle or parallelogram is from being a square. Participants explore various approaches to create numerical values that reflect this distance while preserving characteristics of similar shapes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using the ratio of the sides of a rectangle, where a ratio of 1 indicates a square, as a measure that preserves similarity among rectangles.
  • Another participant proposes a measure for parallelograms defined as $\dfrac{4A}{(a+b)^2}$, which equals 1 for squares and is less than 1 for nonsquare parallelograms, maintaining similarity among shapes.
  • There is a suggestion to incorporate angles into the measure, with a proposed formula that combines the deviation of angles from 90 degrees and the difference between the longest and shortest sides.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express agreement on the need for measures and propose various methods, but there is no consensus on a single best measure or approach.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the effectiveness or applicability of the proposed measures, and assumptions regarding the definitions of similarity and distance from a square remain unaddressed.

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Mathematicians, educators, and students interested in geometric properties and measures of shapes may find this discussion relevant.

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Hello

I am looking for a mathematical measure, that will tell me, numerically, how far is any rectangle from a being a square.
One obvious measure is the ratio between the sides of the rectangle. If the ratio is 1, it is a square. This measure is good, as it preserves a very important characteristic, which is, for similar rectangles, we will get the same measure.

I am looking for other measures such as the ratio, that will allow me to sort rectangles by how close they are to the form of a square, while preserving this characteristic of similar rectangles gets the same numerical value. In addition, is there such a measure for parallelograms ? That will tell me how far are they from a square?

Thank you in advance.
 
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Yankel said:
Hello

I am looking for a mathematical measure, that will tell me, numerically, how far is any rectangle from a being a square.
One obvious measure is the ratio between the sides of the rectangle. If the ratio is 1, it is a square. This measure is good, as it preserves a very important characteristic, which is, for similar rectangles, we will get the same measure.

I am looking for other measures such as the ratio, that will allow me to sort rectangles by how close they are to the form of a square, while preserving this characteristic of similar rectangles gets the same numerical value. In addition, is there such a measure for parallelograms ? That will tell me how far are they from a square?

Thank you in advance.
For a parallelogram with sides $a$ and $b$ and area $A$, you could use the measure $\dfrac{4A}{(a+b)^2}$. That will be $1$ if the parallelogram is a square, but smaller than $1$ for any nonsquare parallelogram. Also, it will give the same measure for similar parallelograms.
 
Thank you, great idea !

Can I also use angles for this purpose ?
 
Yankel said:
Thank you, great idea !

Can I also use angles for this purpose ?

Sure.
To make a parallellogram a square, we need both square angles and equal sides.
We can combine that in one measure with for instance:
$$ (\text{any angle} - 90^\circ)^2 + (\text{longest side} - \text{shortest side})^2$$
 

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