Rectangular Potential Barrier Where E=V0

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The discussion revolves around a quantum mechanics problem involving a rectangular potential barrier where the energy of a particle equals the potential energy (E=V0). Participants are exploring the general solution to the time-independent Schrödinger equation and the calculation of the transmission coefficient.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants describe their attempts to find wave functions for different regions defined by the potential. There are questions about the form of the solutions in the middle region when E=V0 and the reasoning behind the absence of certain terms in the wave function for the right region.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the physical interpretation of the wave functions and the implications of boundary conditions. There is ongoing exploration of the mathematical derivation of the wave functions and the transmission coefficient, with no explicit consensus reached on all points.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the implications of the potential being zero in certain regions and the behavior of wave functions at the boundaries of the potential barrier. There is mention of the Schrödinger equation and its application to different potential scenarios, but some assumptions and definitions remain under discussion.

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Homework Statement



V(x) = 0 for x < 0; V0 for 0 < x < a; 0 for x > a

Particle of mass m

E=V0

Asks for general solution and transmission coefficient.

Homework Equations



Time-Independent Schrödinger Equation

The Attempt at a Solution



I've found region I (the left region where x <0) to be Aeikx+Be-ikx.

Middle region to be C+Dx (not sure where this comes from but I read that this is the solution to the middle region when E=V0 so any help with this is appreciated).

Right region where x > a to be Feikx+Ge-ikx.

My textbook has the right region in an example as just Feikx. It goes through the explanation of limits mattering as x-> infinity or -infinity. I understand this for when E<V0, but the case seems completely different when E=V0.Any help is appreciated.

Thanks.
 
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GrantB said:

Homework Statement



V(x) = 0 for x < 0; V0 for 0 < x < a; 0 for x > a

Particle of mass m

E=V0

Asks for general solution and transmission coefficient.

Homework Equations



Time-Independent Schrödinger Equation

The Attempt at a Solution



I've found region I (the left region where x <0) to be Aeikx+Be-ikx.

Middle region to be C+Dx (not sure where this comes from but I read that this is the solution to the middle region when E=V0 so any help with this is appreciated).
You do the same thing you did to find Aeikx+Be-ikx for region I, except this time the potential is V(x)=E.
Right region where x > a to be Feikx+Ge-ikx.

My textbook has the right region in an example as just Feikx. It goes through the explanation of limits mattering as x-> infinity or -infinity. I understand this for when E<V0, but the case seems completely different when E=V0.
Do you know what eikx and e-ikx physically represent? There's nothing different between the E<V0 case and E=V0 case.
 
vela said:
You do the same thing you did to find Aeikx+Be-ikx for region I, except this time the potential is V(x)=E.

Do you know what eikx and e-ikx physically represent? There's nothing different between the E<V0 case and E=V0 case.

For region I, the potential is zero. So I just get the Aeikx+Be-ikx answer. My question for this portion was about the limits. I know that if this was a finite square well, and if the potential was >0 for x < 0, then Be-ikx would have to be removed, because that would mean that the wave function would go to infinity.

What's confusing me is how in my book, it has psiIII=Ceikx for when x > a (to the right of the barrier). I'm getting Ceikx+De-ikx. Why do they remove the "D" term? The potential is zero in that region.

No I don't know what eikx and e-ikx physically represent.

As for the cases being different: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectangular_potential_barrier#E_.3D_V0

I don't know where they get the C+Dx from.
 
GrantB said:
For region I, the potential is zero. So I just get the Aeikx+Be-ikx answer. My question for this portion was about the limits. I know that if this was a finite square well, and if the potential was >0 for x < 0, then Be-ikx would have to be removed, because that would mean that the wave function would go to infinity.

What's confusing me is how in my book, it has psiIII=Ceikx for when x > a (to the right of the barrier). I'm getting Ceikx+De-ikx. Why do they remove the "D" term? The potential is zero in that region.

No I don't know what eikx and e-ikx physically represent.
If you apply the momentum operator to one of these functions, you get\hat{p}e^{ikx} = \frac{\hbar}{i}\frac{d}{dx}e^{ikx} = \hbar k\ e^{ikx}so you can see it is an eigenfunction of the momentum operator with eigenvalue p=\hbar k. In other words, it represents a particle with a definite momentum p. The one with the positive sign corresponds to a particle moving to the right, and the other, to a particle moving to the left.

In these types of a problems, you have a particle incident on the barrier from the left. There will be a reflected wave and a transmitted wave. Can you figure out the rest from here?

I don't know where they get the C+Dx from.
You say you find in region I that \psi_\mathrm{I} = Ae^{ikx} + Be^{-ikx}. How did you get that?
 
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I see. I think I understand why region III only has the Ceikx. It is because the only direction a particle will be going is to the right. The other regions can have a particle being reflected.

I find the wave functions for each region by using the Schrödinger Equation.

\frac{-\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{d^2\psi}{dx^2}+V\psi=E\psi

For region I, V=0, so it becomes

\frac{d^2\psi}{dx^2}=-k2\psi

where k2=2mE/\hbar^2

which produces Aeikx+Be-ikx since it is a second order diff. eq.

When V=V0, that gives

\frac{d^2\psi}{dx^2}=\alpha^2\psi

where \alpha^2=2m(V0-E)/\hbar^2.

If V0=E, \alpha becomes zero. So,

\frac{d^2\psi}{dx^2}=0

Which would give C+Dx? Since it would be a first order polynomial? That makes sense to me.

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Is using F2/A2 the way to find the transmission coefficient? Ratio of transmitted particles to incident particles? (jtrans/jinc)
 
Yes, exactly. That's how you get Cx+D.

And yes, T = |F/A|2.
 
Thanks a lot!
 

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